Re: [CR] MERCIER - even more..

(Example: Framebuilding:Restoration)

From: Peter Rogers <pjrogers@rogers.com>
To: "Norris Lockley" <nlockley73@gmail.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <AANLkTimvdQiDMDYjcIbfGna-EkUM87wlc0cv5Q5BMmfy@mail.gmail.com>
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:20:31 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR] MERCIER - even more..


Hi Norris, Many thanks for your very informative post.

You have said just about as much as I know now about my Mercier.

I am led to believe that many frames that looked like mine were also produced with Vitus tubes. Maybe this was before the change over to Columbus tubing. I have seen one on eBay (Belgium, I think) some time ago. It was identical to mine in all other respects.

Have you found and good websites, or other sources of information on Mercier?

Anyway, great work and I think you very much. At least I know the model name of my Mercier now!!

All the best, Peter Rogers

Barrie, Ontario, Canada

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From: "Norris Lockley" <nlockley73@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 8:00 PM
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR] MERCIER - even more..


> Before my protracted computer and adsl line problems..and the holiday in

> France that intervened..I had made a start, but not a very promising one,

> on

> researching the Mercier company, so this recent CR List discussion has

> given

> me reason to become more focused..that and the availablity of other

> people's

> photos.

>

> The latest crop has help me establish a fairly definite time-line. The

> vntagevelos Poulidor-replica machine, given as a 1973 model is redolent of

> that period. The frame has Bocama long-point lugs , an RGF or Gargatte

> bracket shell..and one of those awful Nervex Pro pressed steel fork

> crowns,..standard non-engraved plated wrap-over seat-stay eyes, and

> Campagnolo long road drop-outs. The paint job is a sturdy pink/rose

> enamel.

>

> Hugh's silver Mercier is also from that period, no later than the

> mid-70s..largely due to its Simplex drop-outs. Mercier being very

> committed

> to Campagnolo groupsets at that time. Hugh's renovated red Mercier, with

> its

> drilled drop-outs , unusual engraved top-eyes, Prugnat lugs, non-aero

> brake

> bridge, TA bottle bosses, number plate boss and reinforced fork crown is

> most likely to be from around 1977/78, and is probably from the firm's

> Prestige range. The metallic pink frame with its unusual top-eyes, Prugnat

> lugs, TA bottle bosses, RGF braket..and rear drop-outs I cannot readily

> recognise - they look a little like Tecnociclo and its awful self adhesive

> flimsy decals is probably also from the Prestige or Competition range

> hailing from the very end of the 70s and no later than 1980.

>

> I wonder whether this frame might have been either a custom-build or one

> of

> Mercier's options built up with the TOUT MAVIC groupset.

>

> There is little doubt that Peter's Columbus SL tubed frame is post-1981 -

> the year that Mercier introduced the Italian tube throughout its

> Competition

> range. There was just one frame for that range..like Peter's and all had

> full chrome forks, and the metallic paint job and those cursive typeface

> decals. The frame when equipped with Campag Super Record was called the

> Tour

> de France Super Record, Peter's is the Tour de France Record, then there

> was

> the same frame with Shimano Dura-Ace called the Tour du Monde model, and

> finally the same frame with Shomano 600 equipment was called the Mont

> faron

> model.

>

> Another model that resembled these frames, but without the chrome fork,

> was

> the National, built from Super Vitus and equipped with TOUT MAVIC. The

> same

> frame equipped with Campag Gran Sport, but painted red was called the

> Giro,

> but painted dark blue and built up with 600EX it became the Lugano.

>

> The very top of the range at this time, using the Tour de France/Monde

> names

> were the bikes equipped as indicated, but built onto a Vitis Duralinox 979

> frame..anodised - Yes..you guessed it- in cyclamen pink. These frames

> appear

> occasionally on French eBay and are very tasty.

>

> I notice that on Peter's frame, Mercier has dropped the external Cinelli

> crown in favour of a sleeker internal model, possibly a BOCAMA one. What

> puzzles me about the frame is why it has VITUS rear drop-outs..and not

> Campagnolo short road ones.

>

> Leon's frame is also from the same period as Hugh's renovated Prestige

> model, but I have some serious doubts whether the front forks with their

> Tange drop-outs are original. However around that time, some very elegant

> Tange forks with Cinelli-like external crowns were appearing on the UK

> market..so who knows. I reckon that the difference in the number of drill

> holes in the rear drop-outs and the quality of their execution is

> prpobably

> a result of being made in the prestige workshop by a different builder.

>

> Also launched at the same time, 1981 as this range, Mercier decided to go

> very avant-garde..and introduced their FORMULE 1 de Mercier range. These

> were bikes equipped with the same top-of-the range groupsets but built up

> on

> aero-tubed frames. Formule 1 Standard frames had 35 x 20mm tubes of fairly

> standard steel, whereas the FORMULE 1 Performant frames looked identical,

> except for the fork crowns but used Vitus aero section tubes. .

>

> Bikes selected from these ranges were used by the MIKO-Mercier-Vivagel Pro

> team, Business for French bike-makers was becoming difficult by this time

> and there was much talk of grouping several manufacturers together,

> but Marcel Mercier, the boss of the company at that time decided that his

> strategy of launching new dynamic ranges of bikes would enable Mercier not

> only to survive, on its own, but even thrive. Unfortunately by 1983 a

> recession was hitting France and cycling itself was losing popularity to

> tennis and wind-surfing. Mercier tried to find strong partnerships with

> MAVIC and the grocery chain COOP, but the costs of contributing to the Pro

> team bankrupted the last named and shortly after, in November 1983,

> Mercier

> went bankrupt too. The company was reformed with cash from an

> industrialist

> who himself rode a Mercier bike..and he simply wished to keep the name

> going...but by 1985 La Nouvelle societe Mercier had closed its doors for

> good... it seemed at the time .or not quite.

>

> Norris Lockley

>

> Settle UK