Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


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Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:16:17 +0100
From: Derek Athey <devondirect@googlemail.com>
To: kevin sayles <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>
Cc: Tom Rawson <twrawson@comcast.net>, David Miller <hetchinscycles@aol.com>, classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Flash <flash@flashq.de>
Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.


Hi Kevin

Only just picked up on this thread having been out for a day or so. The Jake you are thinking of is Jake Riviera, who very quickly got his fingers burnt as part of the consortium!!

Regards Derek Athey Honiton, Devon UK

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, kevin sayles <kevinsayles@tiscali.co.uk>wrote:
> That would mean it's almost certain to have been made by my
> 'mentor'.....Danny Foster......incidently I was 'coaxed' back to work at Bob
> Jackson's in February 1987 to do the Hetchin frames.......but left after a
> couple of weeks without ever getting to build one....shame really.
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> Think the consortium that managed Jackson's was run by a chap called Jake?
> who I believe was a record producer to the likes of Elvis Costello!
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> After a few turbullent years Bob re-bought his company with the help of the
> present owner Donald.
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> cheers
> Kevin Sayles
> Bridgwater Somerset UK
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Naiman" <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
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> To: "Curtis Wong" <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
> Cc: "David Miller" <hetchinscycles@aol.com>; "Tom Rawson" <
> twrawson@comcast.net>; "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>;
> "Flash" <flash@flashq.de>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
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> Curtis,
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> Sounds about right. Hilary Stone wrote and said this is the first frame
> built by the consortium that Purchased both Bob Jackson and Hetchins.
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> Thankyou,
> Peter
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> Peter W. Naiman
> Owner: Cream City Online.
> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
> Phone: 414-429-4362
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> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Curtis Wong <padtaiwong@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
> To: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 2:40 AM
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> 1986 according to the Campagnolo time line.
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> Curtis Wong
> San Francisco/Bangkok
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> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 00:17:57 -0700
>> From: hetchinspete1@yahoo.com
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> CC: hetchinscycles@aol.com; flash@flashq.de; twrawson@comcast.net;
>> len@nutwood30.free-online.co.uk
>> Subject: [CR] Question about Campy's Victory Leisure group.
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>> Does anyone on the list know what years Campagnolo made thier Victory
>> Leisure group was produced. I found the copy of the Bicycling Magazine
>> article that was written for the early Novus Ductor that I have which I was
>> told was an early prototype, possibly shown at the show in New York, but
>> when I purchased it I was was told it came with a triple Record group.
>> Unfortunately the article from Bicycling Magazine is a bad photo copy with
>> no dates on the pages. I need help dating the frame. The trouble is after
>> 1968 it's more difficult to date Hetchins frames. If I know the group years
>> of production, it would help me date the frame within a certain era and it's
>> restoration. The frame serial number is 86003 which probably means it's a
>> Bob Jackson built Hetchins from 1986 ??
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>> Regards,
>> Peter
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>> Peter W. Naiman
>> Owner: Cream City Online.
>> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
>> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
>> Phone: 414-429-4362