Re: [CR] Fraud Alert-Fake "Ferretti Team Bike On eBay"

(Example: Production Builders)

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To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:20:50 -0500
In-Reply-To:
From: <loudeeter@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Fraud Alert-Fake "Ferretti Team Bike On eBay"


What part of it is fake? The frame looks to be a Masi from that era. That could explain the brakes, right? I understand your point about it possibly not being a team bike, but it is still a nice bike. I also understand your animosity toward all things from this seller. I don't know whether that is a "Boston" thing, or just that you are ticked off at him for some reason. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL

-----Original Message----- From: George Hollenberg <ghollmd@gmail.com> To: Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com> Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:16 am Subject: Re: [CR] Fraud Alert-Fake "Ferretti Team Bike On eBay"

The point is not the brakes-this was a Faliero innovation in about 1968 to prevent to many holes being drilled into the brake bridge-but who cares-- the brakes are attached to a FAKE-this is NOT a Masi-Ferretti. It's a fraud designed to fool us. I can't believe that no one is saying anything abut this. Who cares about the brakes! George George Hollenberg MD

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Fred Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The central bolt is removed from the brake, shortened and brazed into the
> frame. Then the calipers are reassembled in the usual manner.
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
>
> --- On Thu, 1/27/11, Anthony Taylor <ajft1942@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Anthony Taylor <ajft1942@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CR] Fraud Alert-Fake "Ferretti Team Bike On eBay"
> > To: "George Hollenberg" <ghollmd@gmail.com>, "Classic Rendezvous" <
> classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Date: Thursday, January 27, 2011, 9:21 AM
> > It may just be ignorance on my part,
> > but how are the brakes attached?
> >
> > Tony Taylor
> > Manchester, NH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: George Hollenberg <ghollmd@gmail.com>
> > To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Thu, January 27, 2011 5:42:12 AM
> > Subject: [CR] Fraud Alert-Fake "Ferretti Team Bike On
> > eBay"
> >
> > A bike claimed to be a "Professional cycle of the Ferretti
> > team of 1972 that
> > included the Petterssen brothers and Gianni Motta", eBay
> > #120676480890 is
> > not as represented-it's a fake.
> > The seller approached Alberto Masi (personal communication)
> > and asked him to
> > certify the bike as that of Ghosta Pettersen-but Ghosta
> > Pettersen's bike was
> > a 62.5 and Alberto noted that a Ferretti Masi didn't sport
> > De Rosa decals as
> > seen on this eBay bike.
> > Furthermore, the seller presents no proof and no
> > provenance that this bike
> > was ever owned by anyone on the Ferretti Masi team
> > and he never will
> > produce such evidence because it doesn't exist. Many
> > Ferretti repros exist
> > and one is listed in the same size as the eBay seller's
> > bike listed as a
> > reproduction in Bob Hovey's Masi Archive.
> > What we have is just a Masi painted and tarted up as a Masi
> > Ferretti-*let
> > the seller prove otherwise.*
> > George
> >
> > George Hollenberg MD
> > CT, USA
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> > _______________________________________________
> >
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-- George

George Hollenberg MD
CT, USA