Mark- These lug shore line "bump outs" look like the transition from the two cuts done during the formation of a stamped lug. One cutter came down from above, making the spear point portion. The other cutter came across the lug from side to side making the curve as it neared the joining tube. The Prugnat lugs I started with (way back when) had similar lines but maybe a bit less intense a "bump". I was told to file the shore line smooth to remove the "bump" as well as to make the shore line face perpendicular to the tube surface. (And this step was my first exposure to frame building. Jeff Napier handed me a lug and file and said to "do this" as he showed me how to draw the file along the shore line). I suspect that the pictured frame didn't have this prep step done. Andy.
> ..And I've got a question about the chromed head lugs, where you can see
> a
> sort of rough bump-out, midway along the shoreline edges, almost creating
> a sort of spear head look. This looks similar to the lug shape that is
> typical on early 70s Italvega Super Speciale (first version) frames, made
> by
> Torpado in Padova, of course. What is the story here? Were these lugs
> cut
> rough, leaving it up to the builder to finish off, but some leave as is?
> Or was this purposely done in the lug manufacturing process, and I'm just
> missing the art of it? Or is this something that the builders themselves
> have done? Or??? Appreciative of any insights...
>
> Here's two pics that show it well on John's Begamin:
> http://www.flickr.com/
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
> Not quite as clear, but here's a side view of this "effect" on an
> Italvega
> for comparison:
> http://tinyurl.com/
>
> Ciao,
> Mark Agree
> Southfield, Michigan, USA
> ~ ~ ~
>
>
>
>
> Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:26:09 -0500
> From: oroboyz@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [CR] Bergamin Road bike For Sale
> To: jtperry330@me.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> Now there was a little artist in that builder's heart... This seat
> cluster
> has a nice style and unique look, IMO:
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina USA
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John <jtperry330@me.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 4:27 pm
> Subject: [CR] Bergamin Road bike For Sale
>
>
> Well folks,
> I'm back to my ol' tricks; buy'n and sell'n! Get'n up early in the
> morning scored this bird a pair of wheels today: Campy small flange,
> Martano bow
> tie rims, Stella spokes and a couple a Clement tires. Paid 14 Euros.
> That's about 20 bucks. Straight and true. Lucky man. Can you say "Masi
> perfect". HA!
> But, don't be jealous, what I got in store for youse guys, while not
> quite
> as great a deal, is absoluly (hear me Rock?) all right!
> O.K., what about this:
>
> Bergamin Road bike, made in Torino, about 1970-75ish by the looks of her.
> She measures 22 inches square center to center (seat tube and top tube).
> And they're still around:
>
> http://www.ciclibergamin.it/
>
> CICLI BERGAMIN DI BERGAMIN MAXIMILIANO. VIA BRACCINI
>
> PAOLO n?85 10141 - TORINO
>
> I wanna make things easy on me so,........ You finish put'n her back
> together. Frame is straight, no dents, no dings. I will include a couple
> of
> Campy dropout nuts to go on those screws. And I'll make sure they move
> nicely. Clincher wheels straight and true. No front derailleur. I'll
> also
> include some toe clips and straps. Please just look at the pictures for
> the
> full description.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/
>
> This is a good bike, not common at all in the U.S. of A. and I'll make
> her
> a good deal.
> I figure the frame in the USA would sell for like $300ish, parts another
> 250 (e-bay) iffin I nickel and dime it. Thats $550 and a good deal at
> that. But we gotta figure shipping of $100 to $150 to get her over the
> ocean
> and in your hands. So what if I said $395 plus whatever shipping is and
> your golden? Packing included.
> Or buy her now and leave her here for L'Eroica. Fly Air France and
> bring her back home for free. Now that's a deal!
>
> Tell me what youse think!
>
> enjoy,
>
> John Pergolizzi
> Torino, Italy
> _______________________________________________
Andrew R Stewart
Rochester, NY