{Classic Rendezvous} Re: [CR] ebay outing: rene herse??

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This bike made the rounds in Bikeforums.net, and the owner seemed to be aware that this was no Herse or Singer. Now the images on the thread are gone, and bike shows up on eBay. I also agree that the seatpost looks too small, I would not be surprised if the tubing is not in fact metric (to go with the Italian thread BB).

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php/712501-Help-Identify-this-Vintage-Frame-and-Perhaps-Assess-it-s-Value !

Metin Uz Palo Alto, California

On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Anthony Taylor <ajft1942@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If one reads the description, nowhere does the seller claim it is one thing
> or another. He implies that it might bea Singer, or Hearse.
> Although it appears to be a nicely made frame with nice equipment on it,
> the seller is clearly trying to bask in the glory of those names.
> No-one is going to part with that kind of money on a maybe.
>
> Tony Taylor
> manchester, NH
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> From: Peter Naiman <hetchinspete1@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org; Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com
> >
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR] ebay outing: rene herse??
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> Charles,
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> It might be a very well made frame etc, etc but the seller is making a
> claim that can't be proven I guess unless he can find a serial number or
> something else that can help find out what this bike actually is. Without
> that it is preposterous to claim the frame might be anything more than a
> frame similar in style to a Herse or Singer. My two cents.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
> ~~~~~
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> Peter W. Naiman
> Owner: Cream City Online.
> Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
> Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
> Phone: 414-429-4362
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> --- On Tue, 2/22/11, Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> From: Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] ebay outing: rene herse??
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 11:15 AM
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> On reflection, I suppose it's not entirely implausible to call it a
> high-end french bike..that crown is quite nice, for instance.
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200579279946&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123
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> I would appreciate hearing from experts why this frame may or may not be a
> high-end french bike. It looks like a typical french interpretation of an
> italian racing frame..but who made it?
>
> Charles Andrews
> Los Angeles
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Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This bike made the rounds in Bikeforums.net, and the owner seemed to be awa= re that this was no Herse or Singer. Now the images on the thread are gone,= and bike shows up on eBay. I also agree that the seatpost looks too small,= I would not be surprised if the tubing is not in fact metric (to go with t= he Italian thread BB).

http://www.bikeforums.n= et/showthread.php/712501-Help-Identify-this-Vintage-Frame-and-Perhaps-Asses= s-it-s-Value!

Metin Uz
Palo Alto, California


On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Anthony Taylor <ajft1942@yahoo.com> wrote:=
If one reads the = description, nowhere does the seller claim it is one thing or another. He i= mplies that it might bea Singer, or Hearse.
Although it appears to be a nicely made frame with nice equipment on it, th= e seller is clearly trying to bask in the glory of those names.
No-one is going to part with that kind of money on a maybe.

Tony Taylor
manchester, NH



From: Peter Naiman <hetchinsp= ete1@yahoo.com>
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] ebay outing: =A0rene he= rse??

Charles,

It might be a very well made frame etc, etc but the seller is making a clai= m that can't be proven I guess unless he can find a serial number or so= mething else that can help find out what this bike actually is. Without tha= t it is preposterous to claim the frame might be anything more than a frame= similar in style to a Herse or Singer. My two cents.

Regards,
Peter
~~~~~










Peter W. Naiman
Owner: Cream City Online.
Registered Ebay Sales Broker/ Trading Assistant
Glendale, WI USA 53217-5034
Phone: 414-429-4362


--- On Tue, 2/22/11, Charles Andrews <chasds@mindspring.com> wrote:


From: Charles Andrews <chasds@m= indspring.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] ebay outing: rene herse??
To: classicrendezvous@bik= elist.org
Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 11:15 AM


On reflection, I suppose it's not entirely implausible to call it a hig= h-end french bike..that crown is quite nice, for instance.

http://cgi.ebay= .com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D200579279946&ssPageName=3DADM= E:B:SS:US:1123

I would appreciate hearing from experts why this frame may or may not be a = high-end french bike. =A0It looks like a typical french interpretation of a= n italian racing frame..but who made it?

Charles Andrews
Los Angeles


It is impossible to begin to learn that
which one thinks one already knows.
--Epictetus

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