Re: [CR] {CR} Raining PY-10s

(Example: Racing:Jacques Boyer)

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:41:50 -0500
From: "Kurt Kaminer" <cudak888@aol.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] {CR} Raining PY-10s


Robert, you mentioned the lugs being wrong on the third auction example. The fork crown is obviously incorrect, but aren't the lugs on the PY quite variable? I own a '79 PY10 with long point lugs (pretty sure they're Bocamas) that don't look anything like the more common short-points.

Kurt Kaminer Miami, Florida USA http://www.theheadbadge.com

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From: "R.S. Broderick"<rsbroderick(AT)gmail.com> Subject: RE: {CR} Raining PY-10s Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:58:42 -0800

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...not a chance....

290537158144 - decidedly NOT a PY-10 model (...perhaps a PX-10 frameset of some type, but not a PY).

230588509710 - you have got to be kidding (.not you Jon, the seller) - this bike is wrong on SO many levels.

160551544380 - nice try from an otherwise respectable (...but apparently uninformed or misinformed) seller that I have dealt with in the past, but wrong, wrong, wrong for being a PY (...decals, lugs, dropouts, fork crown - the list goes on and on) - it's a PX.

320662595016 - tough call, but I am inclined to give this seller (...again, another respectable type I have had dealings with) the benefit of the doubt absent a few more close-up photos for a hard confirmation- but in any case it's a "touring spec" PY and not a racing one.

220745068192 - now THIS appears to be a bonafide racing PY-10 constructed from the optional lightweight 531 SL tubeset, albeit of a vintage only slightly later than the 1975 to 1977 heyday when Thevenet rode them to victory in the TdF.

Robert "caveat emptor" Broderick

...the "Chronically Cloudy Clime" of Oregon

Portland, USA

From: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com [mailto:classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Crate Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 11:13 AM To: classic-rendezvous-lightweight-vintage-bicycles(AT)googlegroups.com Subject: {CR} Raining PY-10s

It appears we have 5 - count em - 5 (4 frame sets and 1 bike) Py-10s on ebay

220745068192

320662595016

160551544380

230588509710

290537158144

Fortunately, they are all too small for me!

Jon M. Crate

Marietta, Georgia USA

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