Re: [CR] colnago serial numbers

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:50:52 -0500
From: "Peter Gilbert" <peter@canecreek.com>
To: verktyg <verktyg@aol.com>
Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] colnago serial numbers


It is my understanding that the CPSC requirements did not apply to "frame sets"

Peter Gilbert Fletcher, NC

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:12 PM, verktyg <verktyg@aol.com> wrote:
> It appears that a number of bike makers started using some kind of traceable
> serial numbering systems when the US CPSC (Consumer Protection Safety
> Commission) program got started in the late 1970s.
>
> The requirements came mostly from the US importers rather than the Europeans
> (who could have cared less about silly US rules).
>
> By the early 80s, most of those numbering efforts seem to have fallen by the
> way side except for the big European players like Raleigh, Peugeot and
> Motobecane.
>
> My 1983 Colnago Super has a "serial number" - MC.
>
> Also, there are a lot of gray market bikes and frames from that era in the
> US so they probably wouldn't have traceable serial numbers. Then there are
> the thousands of bikes from Europe sold on eBay...
>
> Think of any serial numbers you find as good Lotto tips! ;-)
>
> As Charles Andrews mentioned, Colnago dating is done by features. This post
> from the CR Archives has a good breakdown of those features:
>
> http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=classicrendezvous.10710.0557.eml
>
> Chas. Colerich
> Oakland, CA USA
>
> Charles Andrews wrote:
>
>> Numbers stamped on colnagos never made any kind of sense to me..but maybe
>> later production was marked by some system.  We always date them by physical
>> features, not stamped numbers.
>>
>> Charles Andrews
>> Los Angeles
>
>>> I'm trying to get a rough idea on a Colnago frameset I'm considering
>>> buying.
>>>   On the rear dropout, there is a "USA" and "A395" stamped into it.  I
>>> can't
>>> seem to find any info online, and thought I'd throw this one out to the
>>> experts!  Any info is greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Steven Mills
>>> Portland, Oregon
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