Re: [CR] Spokes with S on the head?

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

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Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 09:09:03 -0500
From: "Ken Freeman" <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>
To: "mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net" <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net>
Cc: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "loudeeter@aol.com" <loudeeter@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Spokes with S on the head?


I did the search and John's posts did not answer my question.

On Monday, January 10, 2011, <mrrabbit@mrrabbit.net> wrote:
> Would have been nice if you guys had bothered to post the last couple lines
> crediting our own John Hurley.
>
> ...hence my earlier post using his name for an archive search hint at
> search.bikelist.org.
>
> =8-)
>
> Robert Shackelford
> San Jose, CA USA
>
>
> Quoting Ken Freeman <kenfreeman096@gmail.com>:
>
>> Copied from a posting on another bikelist thread:
>>
>> > DT= DT Swiss (obviously)
>> > W= Wheelsmith USA
>> > S= Alpina ACI Italy
>> > R= Radaelli Italy
>> > B= Bernard France
>> > N= ? Asian semi low end?
>> >
>> > Others? In general I'm talking about quality SS spokes not cheap
>> galvanized.
>> >
>> > Star - Stella Italy
>> > "E" -- Robergel Trois Etoiles France
>> > "U" -- Union (German, absolutely beautiful stainless 18 ga spokes --
>> Icalled them "spiderweb spokes")
>> > Crescent moon -- zinc Robergel
>>
>> "Sapim" on elbow = Sapim Belgium
>> "TR" = Ritchey (subset of DT as they are DT Swiss made)
>> "H" =  Hoshi Japan?
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:00 AM, <loudeeter@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > This from a Google search.  No S.   Lou Deeter, Orlando FL USA
>> >
>> > Spoke Head Markings
>> > Mark Brand  Country Comment
>> > DT   DT Swiss   Switzerland
>> > U   Union   Germany
>> > R (Reversed)    Redaelli    Italy
>> > A   Alpina   Italy
>> > Y   Prym     Germany
>> > E   Trois Etoiles   France  Robergel
>> > Crescent    Robergel    France
>> > Clover  Berg-Union  Switzerland
>> > Star     Stella  Italy
>> > W    Wolber?
>> > W    Wheelsmith USA Since 1984 probably made by Asahi
>> > P    Performance     probably made by Asahi
>> > Three stars Trois Etoiles   France  Robergel
>> > Three dots
>> > Cross (+)    Torrington USA (Connecticut)
>> > A   Asahi   Japan
>> > H   Hoshi   Japan
>> > SAP  Sapim  Belgium stamped on the elbow
>> > T (in shield)   Torrington   USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >>>>       What is the brand of road spokes with an "S" on the heads?
>> >>>>
>> > They
>> > >>>>       are quite
>> > >>>>       old, with a non-stainless finish, and double-butted.  Right
>> >>>>
>> > now
>> > >>>>       they are
>> > >>>>       holding a Nisi rim onto an un marked Gnutti-like large flange
>> > >>>>       hub with
>> > >>>>       aluminum flanges and a steel axle quill.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>   Older Sapim?
>> > >>>>   --
>> > >>>>   mvg
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>   Marten Gerritsen
>> > >>>>   Kiel Windeweer
>> > >>>>   Netherlands
>> > >>>>   _______________________________________________
>> > >>>>   Classicrendezvous mailing list
>> > >>>>   Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org <mailto:
>> > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>   http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> --
>> > >>>> Ken Freeman
>> > >>>> Ann Arbor, MI USA
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> mvg
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Marten Gerritsen
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Gerritsen & Meijers, Ingenieurs
>> > >>> Framebuilding & Imports
>>

--
Ken Freeman
Ann Arbor, MI USA