Depends.....in the stable.. 1974 Conago Super Molteni/Merckx... 1976? Pogliaghi 1986? Basso 1989 Guercotti sprint (ALAN) 1992 Boeris.*** a custom builder in Turino http://www.boeris.eu and I hope you read Italian.... 1985 Ritchey Assent SE And for the guy who started this exercise a 2009 Fetish....a very nice custom shop in Scottsdale AZ...They build a nice bike. Currently under restoration... 1985/6 Colnago Super in Molteni Colors old decals with a Nouvo Record TRIPLE and Rally Rear D.. The concessions of an old man. Late 80s Pogliaghi # 14,273 **** The Boeris could be for sale or trade it is slightly to big for me I think it is a 54cm C to C with a 53 top tube ? Columbus Altec2. I ride a 52 with a 53 top tube Michael Levy Woodland Hills CA Windy Clear 52o
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> 1. Re: What do you ride? (deoreo@raex.com)
> 2. Peter Underwood site (crumpy6204@aol.com)
> 3. 1982 Guerciotti on eBay (Brook Watts)
> 4. What do you ride? (Bill Prouty)
> 5. Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6 (Bruce Jaffe)
> 6. Re: What do your Ride? (Jack Gabus)
> 7. Re: What do your Ride? (bsandel@verizon.net)
> 8. Assos rims date? (P.C. Kohler)
> 9. dating a condor. (barrie carter)
> 10. Wasting time. (crumpy6204@aol.com)
> 11. What do you ride? Team Pro & Masi (accobra)
> 12. Re: What do you ride? Team Pro & Masi (Aolk@comcast.net)
> 13. Re: What do you ride? (Fred Lifton)
> 14. what do you ride? (Mike Rathwell)
> 15. Re: Pink Merckx (Mark Ritz)
> 16. Re: What do you ride? (John Wood)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:08:11 -0500 (EST)
> From: deoreo@raex.com
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride?
> To: "BRIAN FELTOVICH" <rinjin@mac.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <1688.24.140.152.37.1296677291.squirrel@newmail.core.com>
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>
>
> Oooohh...another knob-head!?
> I'm sure no one wants to hear about
> my 2010 Giant Reign X
> and how I ride every weekend in the
> winter?at http://www.raysmtb.com/
>
> On topic, when the roads are nice, I'll take out an early 70's
> Bridgestone Diamond,
> or an early 70's Zeus. Also have an early 70's
> (I see a trend here..) PX-10 that's been in?
> pieces for ages
> now...
>
> Steve DeOreo
> Iced over & snowed in, in
> North Canton, OH USA
>
>
> > Right now in the depths of
> winter at 7,000 ft. I ride my (OT) Pugsley with
> > 4" tires
> at 10 psi on snowy trails. At least it's steel.?
>
> > '84
> Specialized Stumpjumper with bullmoose bars and thumbies and 50mm Big
> > Apples
> >
> > When the trails dry out I'll be on my
> '09 Stumpjumper (completely OT,
> > aluminum and
> full-suspension).?
> > Brian
> > Brian Feltovich
> > Park City, UT
> > USA
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:12:26 -0500 (EST)
> From: crumpy6204@aol.com
> Subject: [CR] Peter Underwood site
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> http://www.classicleightweights.co.uk My head master, Chuck says I
goofed AGAIN! John Crump Parker Co USA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:22:03 -0700
> From: Brook Watts <brook.watts@comcast.net>
> Subject: [CR] 1982 Guerciotti on eBay
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> A few weeks ago I shared with the group my buddy's 1982 Guerciotti he is
wanting to sell. He had no takers so it's been posted on eBay at a
reasonable price for such a good condition classic.
> http://tinyurl.com/
>
> Quite by coincidence I was able to share some time with the Guerciotti
family last week in St Wendel Germany at the Cyclocross World
Championships. The family has always been BIG supporters of the sport
going back to the Guerciotti branded ALAN frames. Among their party was
Vito di Tano who was a former cross world champion in 1979 and 1986 who was
still looking quite fit.
>
> Brook Watts
> Longmont Colorado USA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:22:11 -0500
> From: "Bill Prouty" <bill@wbpnet.com>
> Subject: [CR] What do you ride?
> To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> Like Tim Ernst, I am from Wellesley, MA and he's right - we won't be
seeing
> pavement anytime soon. I ride a 1978 Claud Butler and a KOF Rivendell.
> Both are steel but they are very different; each a pleasure but for
> different purposes.
>
>
>
> Bill Prouty
>
> Wellesley, MA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 12:30:01 -0800
> From: Bruce Jaffe <brucejaffe@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 98, Issue 6
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> '83 Lugged Steel Miyata 1200
> '84 Lugged Steel Cinelli Centurion
> '80s Lugged Steel Nishiki Comp II
> '89 Steel Stumpjumper
> '95 Steel Trek 850
> OT 2005 Merlin CR Ti Works
>
> Bruce Jaffe
>
> Sunny and Windy
> Irvine, CA
>
>
> On 2/2/11 9:42 AM, "classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org"
> <classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org> wrote:
>
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:46:19 +0000
> > From: Dick Mckee <dickmckee119@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: [CR] What do you ride?
> > To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Message-ID: <SNT131-w658FF11996B7C5803310AB96E40@phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:30:44 -0800
> From: Jack Gabus <jgabus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do your Ride?
> To: CR <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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> My 82 Mclean all Super Record. Bought for 400 bux in the parking lot of
the
> Battleground. That was a great Classic Rendezvous! Thanks Dale.
>
> JG
> --
> *Jack W. Gabus
> 329 Poplar Street
> Laguna Beach, CA 92651
> USA
> (310) 490-3784
> **jgabus@gmail.com* <jgabus@gmail.com>*
> *
> *http://echelon133.blogspot.com/* http://echelon133.blogspot.com/
> *Frame size: 54.5 CtC X 56 CtC
> *
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:33:55 -0600 (CST)
> From: bsandel@verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do your Ride?
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> I am inspired by these lists of incredible machines getting ridden
regularly. I imagine many spotless workshops where meticulous maintenance
is performed next to temperature and humidity controlled storage rooms.
That is not my house, however. I tend to ride what is running the best at
that moment:
> - The last Lemond Carbon frame before he and Trek got divorced, built
with SRAM Red. I ride it occasionally and like it.
> - Salsa La Raza Steel with 9 speed Ultegra - bulletproof, nice riding
and fun
> - Sobel KOF touring bike with 80's Deore XT that I make sure to ride a
couple of times a year, for old times sake.
> - Petrie KOF Racer with Super Record and assorted - see Sobel
> - Takara that I've owned for over 30 years as a backup commuter
> - Gary Fisher 29er for my twice annual mountain bike rides
> - Raleigh Twenty non-folding 4-speed that I ride in the 4th of July
parade (Thanks Andy!)
> and my absolute favorite that I ride most of my miles on, both commuting
and pleasure, is a mid-70s Holdsworth that has been broken and rebuilt as a
fixed gear, with a Sobel fork, 28 spokes wheels, fenders, BMX chainring and
other unmatched parts. I believe it is a dogs breakfast, if I understand
the term.
>
> By spring I expect to have another Sobel KOF built up with an extremely
low mileage nuovo record group and sewups that was a bike I raced 25 years
ago, a Lemond off-topic steel frame built up as a 3-speed fixed gear and
hopefully the Zeus that Jerry and I have been sort of co-parenting.
>
> Regarding that incredible Zeus for sale on ebay: I would ride it. Not
lots of miles, but I think the most beautiful bikes are those that have
been ridden well and well cared for. Thank my lucky stars that Zeus
doesn't fit me.
>
> Ben Sandel
> Harrisonburg VA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:47:55 -0800 (PST)
> From: "P.C. Kohler" <kohl57@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [CR] Assos rims date?
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> Any idea when the Assos deep profile narrow tt rims were introduced?
Looking at a wheelset built with these (black anodised) with bladed spokes
for my 1979 Shorter tt but it's gotta be period correct, right?!
>
> Peter Kohler
> Washington DC USA
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 20:52:57 +0000 (GMT)
> From: barrie carter <barriemgracer@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: [CR] dating a condor.
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> I only know about Bill Hurlow and his way of dating a frame. I workd for
Condors for 2 years as a boy,but learnt a lot. Bills prerfferred method was
your birthdate, plus the date?of the year ,so mine was 1010 60. Many fame
builders numbering system was based on the DOT and any number youwished>
Remember,these wewre frames that bore no history and proninence is only a
recent thing. In those days, we could buy an ex pros frame for the same as
an ordinary one. Provinence has increased vcalues, and unfortunately,greed
and fraud.Barrie Carter Roundham,UK
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:02:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: crumpy6204@aol.com
> Subject: [CR] Wasting time.
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <8CD9133A28C817D-1E6C-75A@webmail-m020.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Sorry chaps, Seems I have been wasting everyone's time with my lack of
accuracy! Of course I should accept that I do have a lot more time to waste
than most, Of Well I'll get my walker out and head for the Old Folks home,
Time for checkers and tiddlywinks. TTFN John GRUMP OldbacktosleepBrit,
Parker, Co USA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:21:55 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> From: accobra <accobra@peoplepc.com>
> Subject: [CR] What do you ride? Team Pro & Masi
> To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
>
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> I alternate between two bikes that are my "daily riders". A 1979 Raleigh
Team Pro and a 1975 Masi Gran Criterium (bought the Masi new). Both are
COMPLETELY period correct (right down to Robbie's Campy hoods) except for
clipless pedals and updated seats. I ride 3-4 times a week when the
weather is nice, but just not as fast & far as I used to go 35 years ago...
>
> I've purposely never ridden or owned anything newer than 1982. I figure
if it was top of the line and good enough for me back then, it should be
good enough for me today. I keep it a nostalgia trip which makes it all
the more fun!
>
> Mark Winkelman
> Dallas, Texas USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Timothy Ernst <ternst@mac.com>
> >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 11:33 AM
> >To: Dick Mckee <dickmckee119@hotmail.com>
> >Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride?
> >
> >If I can ever find the street again, I will be back out on my custom
(off topic) Seven with Campy groupset. My love is my '73 Paramount, P-13 I
bought and raced in college. Still in great shape. Put >3K miles on the
Seven and about 1K on the Paramount last year. Totally resigned to indoors
for the next 6 weeks at least, independent of what the ground hog saw.
> >
> >Tim Ernst
> >
> >Envying the Mojave in
> >Wellesley MA
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:33:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Aolk@comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride? Team Pro & Masi
> To: accobra <accobra@peoplepc.com>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID:
>
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> My daily commuter alternates between a 1991 Koga Miyata Traveler (their
expedition/full tourer model) and a 2005 Lemond Poprad. I'm also hoping to
go touring with the Koga. My bad weather/rain commuter is a 1973 Raleigh
International (I have fenders on it) and winter commuter is a 1990
Specialized Stumpjumper. I do use the 1973 Raleigh International for
commuting in some other conditions as well, but have found the Poprad is
more fun.
>
> My "I need to keep up, these guys are FAST" bike is a 1991 Merlin ti with
9sp DA STI. The 1991 Motorola Team Eddy Merckx (Steve Bauer) is a I feel
like showing off bike. Casual rides were typically done on my De Rosa
(sold) and will probably now be done on the 1984 Richard Sachs. I also have
a 1978 Raleigh Professional in Team paint, full Campy SR, Brooks copper pro
and brooks handle bar tape, that is sort of a Sunday ride I take out for
tweed rides, vintage rides...etc. I really need to sell that bike since it
gets so little use these days. I haven't really decided how to add the 1986
Team Miyata into the equation.
>
> This coming year...I'll probably be using the new custom built Columbus
MAX Marnati for everything in nice weather.
>
>
> Aaron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: accobra <accobra@peoplepc.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:21:55 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [CR] What do you ride? Team Pro & Masi
>
> I alternate between two bikes that are my "daily riders". A 1979 Raleigh
Team Pro and a 1975 Masi Gran Criterium (bought the Masi new). Both are
COMPLETELY period correct (right down to Robbie's Campy hoods) except for
clipless pedals and updated seats. I ride 3-4 times a week when the
weather is nice, but just not as fast & far as I used to go 35 years ago...
>
> I've purposely never ridden or owned anything newer than 1982. I figure
if it was top of the line and good enough for me back then, it should be
good enough for me today. I keep it a nostalgia trip which makes it all
the more fun!
>
> Mark Winkelman
> Dallas, Texas USA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Timothy Ernst
> >Sent: Feb 2, 2011 11:33 AM
> >To: Dick Mckee
> >Cc: Classic Rendezvous
> >Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride?
> >
> >If I can ever find the street again, I will be back out on my custom
(off topic) Seven with Campy groupset. My love is my '73 Paramount, P-13 I
bought and raced in college. Still in great shape. Put >3K miles on the
Seven and about 1K on the Paramount last year. Totally resigned to indoors
for the next 6 weeks at least, independent of what the ground hog saw.
> >
> >Tim Ernst
> >
> >Envying the Mojave in
> >Wellesley MA
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:39:16 -0800
> From: Fred Lifton <flifton@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride?
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> There are some impressively long lists on this thread! Mine is not one of
them:
> 97 Bontrager Road Lite
> 96 Bontrager Race Lite
> 96 Bontrager Privateer
> 2010 Rock Lobster steel roadie
>
> Closest thing I own to an OT bike is the wife's ride, an '83 Trek 620.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:45:52 -0500
> From: Mike Rathwell <mikkrat@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [CR] what do you ride?
> To: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID: <BAY125-W12BFF5E85A20446807386DACE40@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
>
> This winter has been more brutal than others for a number of years.
Global warming, it does not seem to be a factor this year. Although the
ground hog did not see his shadow today (north American thing) I cant wait
for spring and clear roads again.
>
> Ifs its a Shimano day.....83 Guerciotti with Dura Ace.
>
> If its a Campy day...83 Rossin with Campy Chorus.
>
> Cant bring myself to take out a wall bike 84 Rossin with NOS Superbe Pro.
>
> Mike Rathwell
> Waterford, Ont. Can.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:55:14 -0800 (PST)
> From: Mark Ritz <ritzmon@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Pink Merckx
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Message-ID: <721586.93710.qm@web180113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Jack asked:
>
>
>
> Ok one more time regarding my Merckx, I have exhausted all avenues.? What
> team was this.
>
> http://www.cadre.org/
>
> I postit: Didn't Merckx sponsor the original Team Telekom?
> ?
> Cheers,
> Mark (lurking for too long) Ritz
> Sunny Arcata, CA USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:27:21 -0700
> From: John Wood <braxton72@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [CR] What do you ride?
> To: Dick Mckee <dickmckee119@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTi=B75ZrY7kpjEV8KFRM+FpuYpiPN+FKw5kUtgw+@mail.gmail.com>
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> My main ride is a KOF lugged Waterford with OT Campy Chorus 10spd
> components. I also regularly ride an early to mid-70's Braxton (favorite
> bike), late 80's Miyata 1000 LT and LeMond Malliot Jaune, a 72 Paramount,
a
> late 60's/early 70's Locomoteif.
>
> Ridden less frequently are a 76 Witcomb USA, a recently acquired mid-70's
> Gitane Tour de France, and a 1948 Hill Special. Oh, and I am also working
> on getting a 1981 Bianchi (model name escapes me at the moment, but a
lower
> end bike with sentimental value - College graduation gift from Dad) back
on
> the road, and just recently picked up a Vitus 979 frame/fork which will be
> my next project.
>
> Ridden regularly on the dirt are a 2004 Surly 1x1, a 2009 Salsa Ala Carte,
> and a 2010 Trek Fuel EX 9.
>
> Not ridden at all is a fully restored 1977 Colnago Super wall hanger.
>
> Oh, and I commute most days on a 2010 Surly Big Dummy pulling Maxwell the
> shop dog in a Burly Tail Wagon.
>
> John
>
> --
> John Wood
> Open Road Bicycles
> Missoula, Montana, USA
>
>
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