Re: [CR] damaged Bates received in the mail from the UK

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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 11:13:00 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: "Marc St. Martin" <marc.stmartin@earthlink.net>
To: pbbikes <pbbikes@gmail.com>, classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR] damaged Bates received in the mail from the UK


Barry,

In 2004, I purchased a Bates Vergrandis from a seller in the UK who represented the frameset as only having "surface rust." Well, when I took it to my frame painter, he stripped it and confirmed that the seat stays (yeah, those pencil-thin ones) were pretty much Swiss cheese with rust. It's still in his shop and has become a wall decoration ;^) I don't remember how much I was into it, but with shipping it was a good amount. Well, there are lots of neat bikes out there and I have since moved on!

Marc St. Martin Livermore, California USA

-----Original Message-----

>From: pbbikes <pbbikes@gmail.com>

>Sent: Feb 26, 2011 10:50 AM

>To: classic <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>

>Subject: [CR] damaged Bates received in the mail from the UK

>

>Hey Guys. I just bought an early Bates BAR froma seller in the UK. i had a

>friend ship the bike to me. The finish is rough, what I expected ad it was

>going to be my commuter.

>

>As i was going over the bike i noticed a sort of hole/crack near the bottom

>of the right seatstay. barsically one of the fender mounting studs had been

>ripped off leaving an indent, that looks like asemicircle crack/dent

>

>The stays on these bikes are pencil thin.

>

>im over 200 pounds and will be riding on a dirt road with bags and racks

>

>the seller admitted to knowing about it but didnt think it was a big deal in

>mentioning it.

>

>Were being cordial at thois point but he wants me to go through all kinds of

>pics and having pros look at it and all that,.

>

>i paid alot for the bike -not cheap at all- so i expected a turn key

>operation.

>

>Any one know about having these Bates seat stays repaired. findinga proper

>fender brazeon is a bear im sure .

>

>In this position im gonna get screwed either way. I have to have it

>repaired which sucks time wise nd no garuntee i'l get money for it. Its

>chrome so gonna look like butt.

>

>The other option is to send it back which i'll eat $100 on shipping im sure,

>the seller pointed out t me that he used the money on a new apartment-not

>really my concern but sounds like he doesnt want to retur my loot.

>

>bog deal like i saidim on the north side of $1000 for this F & F

>

>Anybody have some suggestions or similar experiences.

>

>ciao Barry Scott

>mount shasta ca usa