Re: [CR] pics from Japan trip - Nagasawa shop

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From: "Tim Potter" <bikes@msu.edu>
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 09:49:56 -0500
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Subject: Re: [CR] pics from Japan trip - Nagasawa shop


Joe,

I don't recall seeing any other fancier lugs laying around his shop while I was there. He did mention that his original fork crown design has changed from the one seen in this photo with the "N": https://picasaweb.google.com/flyingdutchman63/NagasawaRacingCyclesShopVisit 5499684429419943410

to his current design seen ever since. That's about the only change in lug design that we discussed. As Robert pointed out the NJS frame builders in Japan haven't varied much or done much fancy lugwork over the years which is likely a result of the NJS strength requirements.

I'm basing this on the dozens of different frames from just about every NJS builder I've seen there since I've lived/ traveled there for over 5 yrs. (total) since the early '80s. This would include the frames of my father-in-law which he had in the early '80's that looked to be from as late as the 60's (wish I'd kept at least one of them; he rode King Speeds).

Tim

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-----Original Message----- From: Joe Starck [mailto:josephbstarck@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:26 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Cc: bikes@msu.edu Subject: [CR] pics from Japan trip - Nagasawa shop

Tim, I can't recall if I looked through your Nagasawa photos when you posted 'em last year, but this year, the bottom bracket shells and lugs caught my eye. Are there any Nagasawa's with fanciful shorelines? Richard Sachs said Nagasawa "brought style and austerity to the framebuilding world," and I think it was Mark Bulgier who expanded on Sachs with, "Nagasawa's austerity: Beaucoup Bold; his style: Mos Scocious."

Below your links are some bikelist links -- tutorials -- on why frame-parts like Nagasawa's represent the best in investment cast lugsets:

https://picasaweb.google.com/flyingdutchman63/NagasawaRacingCyclesShopVisit slideshow/5499684791584499298 https://picasaweb.google.com/flyingdutchman63/NagasawaRacingCyclesShopVisit slideshow/5499685676192228306

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Joe Starck
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