I finally dug out a Raleigh Superbe from the back room to look at the serial number.It's got 531 lightweight decals and the # is 11F 1080.It's a 63 c-c with a 56 cm. top tube.
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Today's Topics:
1. Superbe (John Purser) 2. Archer RC frame (John Purser) 3. Nameless circa 1950 French all Chrome Frame-- starting build (Guy Lesser) 4. L'Eroica registrations (Angel Garcia) 5. Re: Batavus Question (M-gineering)
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Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:55:51 -0000 From: "John Purser" <john.purser@btconnect.com> Subject: [CR] Superbe To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <001a01cbc94d$7cd093e0$6705a8c0@lavenham.dallmer.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Superb = Sue - purb
The added 'e' makes it a French word = Soo pairb
But that would only be after it had crossed the English Channel John Purser phonetically inspired in Sudbury, England
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:36:24 -0600 From: Kristopher Hicks-Green <kristopher@hicks-green.biz> Subject: Re: [CR] ---early 80's Raleigh Superbe Indentification To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <AANLkTimTEWY6ek7vkuCcWT7J0FujhcZ5EQLEiGpTuVqm@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Not to hijack this thread, but how should one pronounce "Superbe"? I have a couple of Raleigh Superbes and some of the SunTour components, but am uncertain whether to say "Superb" or "Super Bee". Anyone know?
-- Kristopher Hicks-Green Hicks-Green Consulting Austin, TX ?78704 ?USA
kristopher@hicks-green.biz (360) 481.4592
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Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:07:43 -0000 From: "John Purser" <john.purser@btconnect.com> Subject: [CR] Archer RC frame To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <001b01cbc94d$7cfb7470$6705a8c0@lavenham.dallmer.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Nicely detailled frame. Would have thought that first '69' might indicate year of manufacture. The circles in the lugs are a good clue. Clubs tended to follow one shop. Try googling Stu Benstead, leading Archer Road Club man to ask if he can remember. Or see if Steve and Josie Heffernan are still in their West London bike shop - again, Archer members way back. Sherlock Holmes, cunningly disguised as John Purser Sudbry, UK
Message: 15 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:29:35 +0000 From: adam bownass <readview@hotmail.com> Subject: [CR] re.frame identification To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <SNT106-W22B0D82FF5ED13BED989C6D0EC0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I'm not well versed in the frame numbers but the frame looks very much like a Pat Hanlon frame that i once owned,especially the shot in stays.Seatpost diameter would indicate reynolds 531db. Adam Bownass accrington,england.
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Message: 13 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:16:20 +0000 From: Angus Henderson <angushenderson@mac.com> Subject: [CR] frame identification To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <3C4B22FD-F1AE-4E40-ADFE-741E1D133D4D@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>> Dear CR and fellow enthusiasts.
>>
>> Wondering if someone might have any knowledge about this frame?
>> A little history, i bought it second hand off a team mate in the
>> Archer RC in London
>> back in 81 it was his father's so possibly mid seventies as he had
>> it a few years .
>> what i can remember? the frame had rear chrome vertical Campagnolo
>> drop outs,front ones too,
>> the fork shoulders/crown were chromed and lug lined as was the
>> whole bike.
>> Bottom bracket serial number: 69694 no letters, not that visible
>> now because i powder coated frame.
>> the seat cluster bolt is imperial,seatpin diameter27.2 bottom
>> bracket english threading,the serial number is vertically stamped
>> on steerer
>> things to note circle in lug?brake cable bosses,shot in stays? .
>> So without dragging things on it was red in colour dark blue lug
>> lined, I loved it and raced on it to my mid twenties. After 25 years
>> i re-sprayed it and built it back up but would love to know what it
>> is as i never asked all those years back then!!!
>>
>> Attached Flicker images,
>>
>> Regards and many thanks,
>>
>> Angus Henderson,
>> London UK
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/
>
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Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:25:23 -0500 From: Guy Lesser <guyless@thing.net> Subject: [CR] Nameless circa 1950 French all Chrome Frame-- starting build To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <A746253E-AC90-4266-B729-C4BCDEAFD867@thing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed
As Oscar Wilde once said, "I can resist anything except temptation." So ten days ago, I found myself the new owner of Ebay item #320648132351. Second or maybe third rung constructeur's work to be sure, with sort of Nervex-esque lugs, but to my mind lovely, rather more affordable than the recent flood of Herses from Dr Graves' inner circle, and exactly my size. $319.
Obviously I'd love to identify its maker, if anyone here can hazard a plausible guess. But, I realize this is not very likely-- ?Given that its bolted headbadge is missing; ?there are no decals of any kind (though an oblong shadow on the seat tube hints at perhaps a Reynolds 531 sticker of some sort); ?the lugs appear not to have been thinned or modified in any obviously distinctive way; ?and the closest thing to an actual concrete clue is what must be a serial number ("414 235 V," with a space after the first three digits and the letter below the last number) on the rear right Simplex dropout (evidently a hangerless Type "Tour de France model 881).
Meanwhile, I've begun an ambitious hunt for parts and rather have my foolishly set on a few unobtainium grails. So, if anyone would be willing to even discuss considering a raid their parts drawer, I am very keen to track down (i) any version of the fenders/mudguards made by Durex, a.k.a. "RBN"-- ideally in 650B, and (ii) some kind of real Routens front rack.
Finally, is anyone here known on eBay as "pterodactylegg"?
I will put a few more detailed photos of the frame up on flickr over the weekend if that would be of help. And, as always, thanks to all.
Guy Lesser Brooklyn, NY
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Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 14:34:06 -0500 From: Angel Garcia <veronaman@gmail.com> Subject: [CR] L'Eroica registrations To: Dale Brown <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Message-ID: <AANLkTinjBRqNnMV9B4yuL4Wh6Mos5iuyDgET4YMcGege@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
In the first week there were 1,000 registrations, 40% plus were foreign. Field limits are in place this year.....
Angel Garcia Long Valley NJ
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Message: 5 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:54:58 +0000 From: M-gineering <info@m-gineering.nl> Subject: Re: [CR] Batavus Question To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Message-ID: <4D5450A2.9000800@m-gineering.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 2/10/2011 4:11 PM, ken varney wrote:
> Hello list. I have a few questions about a 75 Batavus and the model is a
> Monte Carlo. I'm still new at this so is this bike collectable and if so,
> what components should be on the bike? Any advice, comments or information
> would be greatly appreciated. I won't be able to see the bike in person. A
> friend is helping me out with it.
>
> Ken Varney
> Dewey, Az
> USA
Nobody ever dreamt of a Batavus, you bought them because that was what the bikeshop had. That even goes for the top of the line which had names like Competition, afaik bikes named after cities were second or third tier
But if it is in good nick you might want to keep it as a time capsule.
-- mvg
Marten Gerritsen Kiel Windeweer Netherlands
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