JP wrote:
<< 1) do you adhere to the rules as they are written
or
2) do you follow the "spirit" of the rules? >>
To broadly address this topic (not picking on you John W. for asking the question) I have to say "not getting caught with 10 speeds" is like cheating!
Why go to all the trouble and expense to go tl L'Eroica and then try to squeeze by the rules? Go to a local Century ride for gosh sakes or get with the program and honor the spirit of this unique event!
Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA
-----Original Message----- From: John <jtperry330@me.com> To: John Wood <braxton72@gmail.com> Cc: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Wed, Feb 16, 2011 4:51 pm Subject: Re: [CR] L'Erocia rules
John, I think that the correct answer is:
1) do you adhere to the rules as they are written
or
2) do you follow the "spirit" of the rules?
Rules are:
- no brake lever shifters (bar end shifters are fine. And they wont count your clicks, if any, before your let out on to the road!). -no clipless pedals (I've not seen anyone attempt using Cinelli M71 pedals. Although within the time frame, no one is that upid!) -no mountain bikes (flat bar's, thumb shifters, active forks)
The spirit would dictate to me:
-use equipment that was available to vintage riders. I would say that that would be equivalent to our CR time frame; pre 1980 stuff. And KOF frames. -certainly a 6 speed freewheel is adequate, as long as a low enough gear is achieved. For me, a 41x30 worked just fine. I just ain't so strong any more! -To me, using 10 sp. set up, although you might not be found out, is contrary to the intention and spirit of the event. -A triple up front (an old T.A., Stronglight, or Campy) is a.o.k. -Nobody will count your cogs. But you just don't need them. After leaving town and after the first 5 miles, your out of the big ring and she's never to be seen again!
How strong is your rider? What distance?
John Pergolizzi Torino, Italy JMHO after 2x 80K
On Feb 16, 2011, at 9:31 PM, John Wood wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I've searched the archives and Google, but have found little to > answer my
> questions on allowed bike set-up
> for L'Eroica. I have a customer that wants me to set up a new > lugged, KOF
> Gios Torino so that it would be
> L'Eroica compatible. I am having trouble finding out what exactly is
> permissible for drive trains/shifers.
> Is there any limits on the numbers of cogs? I know modern indexing > Brifters
> are a no-no, but what about
> indexing DT shifters? ie. Could you run current 10 spd Shimano DT > shifters
> and compatiable derailleurs?
> Are modern indexing bar end shifters also a no-no? ie. 10spd Campy.
> How about modern bar end shifters run in friction mode? ie. an 8 spd
> Shimano set-up.
>
> I can certainly set the bike up with vintage parts, but the customer > would
> like to keep the bike as modern
> as possible, while still conforming to the rules.
>
> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>
> John
>
> --> John Wood
> Open Road Bicycles
> Missoula, Montana, USA