Message-ID: <3A184CA5.826EF660@penn.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 16:56:53 -0500 From: Jerry & Liz Moos <moos@penn.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hilary Stone <Hilary.Stone@Tesco.net> Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] Cinelli handlebar stem lengths References: <E13xbuF-0001eB-00@trolley.tesco.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I suspect you're correct about the 1R, Hilary, and you're definitely correct about the 1A and TTT. I have several 70 and 80 mm 1As and 60 and 70 TTT Records, the latter of which were actually still available until recently. I normally like a 80mm on a "square" 53 or 54 cm frame, and pick up 60mm or 70mm when I find them for those old frames with long TTs. Short stems also help with those old French bars, which tend to have a much longer reach than the Cinellis we've some to think of as "normal". With these long reach bars, I prefer to be just a bit cramped on the tops rather than to feel too stretched out when on the hoods, where I ride most of the time. I've noticed that the Cinelli XA, which seems somewhat similar to the 1R, is available in 80mm.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Hilary Stone wrote:
> I think 85mm was probably the shortest 1R as I had definitely had one on my
> my new Tony Oliver in 1986. The 1A stems were made down to to 8cm (or
> possibly 7cm). Some 3TTT stems went down to 6cm.
> Hilary Stone
>
> Greg Parker wrote:
> >
>
> > I believe the shortest 1R was 95mm.
> >
> Jerry & Liz Moos wrote:
> >
> Anyone have an 80mm 1R stem to trade? Did the 1R come that
> > short?