Re: [CR] Varsity

(Example: Framebuilding:Norris Lockley)

Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 10:12:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR] Varsity
To: Dave Feldman <feldmanbike@home.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Apply a large load (either radial or lateral) to a properly tensioned wheel and the same load to either a bare rim or untensioned wheel. Which one fails first?
   Loose spoke tension is not a reasonable precaution to protect the rim... though collapsing rims may absorb energy that would otherwise hurt the frame.


--- Dave Feldman wrote:


> An explanation to the undertensioned wheels as told
> by Dave Coombs, who
> taught service classes at Schwinn Sales West during
> the 1970's: This was
> intentional to protect the bikes during shipping.
> Remember, the Chicago
> made bikes were "long-pack;" shipped with both
> wheels in. They were shipped
> by rail and handled by guys who were used to
> throwing sides of beef and
> large car parts around. The undertensioning of
> wheels built with those
> stone-crusher Schwinn rims was an attempt to build
> some shock absorption
> into the boxed bike to prevent permanent damage when
> mishandled in shipping!
>
> David Feldman
> ----------
> >From: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>
> >To: "brian blum" <brianblum@hotmail.com>
> >Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> >Subject: Re: {ClassicRend]Varsity
> >Date: Thu, Nov 30, 2000, 5:26 PM
> >
>
> >I believe Brian is poking fun at my defense of the
> quality of the Varsity
> >(among other Schwinns). What I meant by quality is
> the consistency and
> >integrity of the product. Schwinn always had the
> answer if you wanted
> >quality in terms of the best (or nearly): a
> Paramount.
> >
> >See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/varsity.html and
> the other listings indexed
> >there for some explanations of why Varsitys and
> other Schwinns were special.
> >
> >Boy - I just remembered one thing that wasn't
> quality on the Varsitys from
> >the mechanics viewpoint. Schwinn would cheat on the
> wheelbuilding and from
> >time to time provide wheels that were merely laced
> and not even tensioned.
> >Tensioning and dishing the wheels when you got $3
> for the build was a chore.
> >
> >Joe Bender-Zanoni
> >Too busy to ride- GRRR
> >
> >At 08:39 PM 11/30/00, brian blum wrote:
> >>Quality Schwinn Varsity for sale, never ridden
> 1984 vintage, small womens
> >>frame. Price $1 plus $25 for professional packing
> and UPS for 55 lbs
> >>including packing. Has lollipop shifters, Schwinn
> approved hubs, Schwinn
> >>approved derailleurs, Schwinn Approved brakes,
> Schwinn approved saddle,
> >>Schwinn approved tires, Cranks of indeterminate
> origin(MAYBE OHIO) with
> >>beautiful chrome finish. Please respond quickly.
> USE AT YOUR OWN RISK, NO
> >>WARRENTEE IMPLIED
>
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