Re: [CR] Determining Frame tubing?

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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:14:49 -0700
From: "Chuck Schmidt" <>
To: Mark Bulgier <>
Subject: Re: [CR] Determining Frame tubing?
References: <C102531FB711D411B5B90060B0A4687605E69B@MAIL>

Mark Bulgier wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> > The over sized, bulged-right-behind-the-bbkt. chainstays like
> > in the PS were also made by Ishiwata.
> Really? Cool. My '74 Ishiwata catalog doesn't list 'em but I know it isn't
> complete, I used other Ishiwata tubes that aren't in that catalog, tandem
> tubes for instance. I used some Ishiwata 24mm c-stays, but they didn't
> swage down, you had to use 'em with a lugless shell.
> Do you know of any bikes that used those PS style Ishiwata c-stays?
> Nagasawa maybe?
> Interesting quotes from '74 catalog:
> Victorious The Word [sic] Championship
> Proffesional [sic] Road 1973 BARCELONA (SPAIN)
> Victorious The Word Championship
> Proffesional and Amateur Cross Country
> 1974 Vella de Vidasso (SPAIN)
> Alright you racing historians, who won the '73 pro road worlds and what kind
> of bike did he ride?(snip)


1973. Barcelona, Spain. September 2.

Distance: 248.600 km Time: 6h 31m 26s Average speed: 38.106 km/hr 87 riders started, 39 finished.

1. Felice Gimondi (Italy) 2. Freddy Maertens (Belgium) 3. Luis Ocana (Spain)

The sprint is shown at the start of the film _La Corse en Tete_ about Eddy Merckx' career.

Felice was riding for Bianchi. I'll leave it to someone else to explain the connection between Bianchi / Columbus / Ishiwata !

Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, Southern California (Reprints, Campagnolo Timeline & T-shirts)