Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy

> Interesting story on bicycles labels and manufacturers.
> Jacques Anquetil writes about his hour record 1955 in his book "Je suis
> comme ca". His first attempt was a failure he could not get into his normal
> rhythm aches in back and legs etc. His 2nd attempt was also a failure. same
> problems. Mr Masi who heard about the problems came out of his Vigorelli
> workshop and checked out Anquetils bicycle and discovered that it was not
> suitable for the Vigorelli to long and to low. He needed another track bike.
> But because of time restrictions which one? Masi had in has workshop track
> bikes made forCoppi, Magni and Flippi etc. Coppi's bike had more ore less
> the same measurements Anquetil needed. Anquetil tried out Coppi's bike and
> noticed a big difference in its ride. Masi made a new frame in 24 hours
> identical to Coppi's but adapted to Anquetil's measurements. Three days
> later Anquetil broke Coppi's hour record on a bicycle labelled Helyett made
> by Masi.
> Rob Vermeer
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> To: <CYCLESTORE@aol.com>
> Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>; <tech@worrall.co.nz>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]the next thread Ole Eddy
>
>
> > <<<Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in
> > America must have
> > some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some
> > sources-documentation to back this up if available.>>>
> >
> > too much to cut and paste. and i re-read the post below
> > and still don't know which post is attributed to what guy!
> > but i know what i saw and what i saw was this:
> > 3 years ago in the "made-in-italy" insert in the velonews
> > mag, there was a advertorial on alberto masi and he was
> > shown with a frame template fixture ..."once used to build
> > frames for coppi".
> > does this pass as evidence?
> > e-RICHIE
> > my coppi came from xerox
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 18:29:27 EST CYCLESTORE@aol.com writes:
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
> > >
> > > << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi gang,
> > > >
> > > > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> > > construct as
> > > > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> > > custom bikes
> > > > to order for many years.
> > >
> > > The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> > > built by Masi
> > > when
> > > he rode for Bianchi.
> > > DB
> > > >>
> > >
> > > I didn't say it couldn't have happened. Rumors even suggest that
> > > Masi's were
> > > built by Mario Confente. Rumors abound but did Masi actually build
> > > bikes for
> > > Coppi? How often though, was he his primary builder and did he ever
> > > work for
> > > Bianchi and who is Masi? Alberto, Falerino and some long lost Masi
> > > namesake
> > > cousin. While I would not dispute this I have missed out on any
> > > documentation
> > > that might support this over the last 30 years or so.
> > >
> > > The last time I spoke to Coppi shortly before his death in 1960 he
> > > said to
> > > me, "Bambino, I likea ta ride datta Masi tricyclette lika you but
> > > I'ma under
> > > da contrata witha olde Edwardo Bianchi don's cha know; si." I was
> > > three years
> > > old then and I don't remember what bike he really rode.
> > >
> > > Brian Bayliss or Jim Cunningham who both worked at Masi in America
> > > must have
> > > some rumor or real facts on this Masi Coppi connection and some
> > > sources-documentation to back this up if available.
> > >
> > > Sorry to sound so skeptical but I've been in the bike business for
> > > almost
> > > three full decades and I have not seen it all but I have seen
> > > similar
> > > unsupported claims (not that this is unsupported) on every rider,
> > > team and
> > > bike factory and small builder and I hate to see misinformation like
> > > this
> > > spread. Lots of locker room talk at bike school turns out to started
> > > by
> > > importers trying to increase the cache attached to their products or
> > > even
> > > users(riders) trying to build up the reputation of their personal
> > > ride. You
> > > can pay a lot for a name in this game.
> > >
> > > Today I have been told Lance Armstrong only rides Litespeeds painted
> > > like
> > > Trek's. While he certainly my own or ride a Litespeed and use it in
> > > some
> > > competitions unless Litespeed has secretly started making Carbon
> > > Fiber bikes
> > > then paints them like Trek's, this is a falsehood. Lance Armstrong
> > > owns and
> > > rides many brands of bikes from what I have seen, these are facts.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Gilbert Anderson" A person who because of the smooth detached ride
> > > similar to
> > > gliding through the country side from your sofa; will like Brian
> > > Bayliss,
> > > only drive the well engineered Cadillac Esqilade, the biggest SUV on
> > > the
> > > planet, also driven exclusively by Eddy Merckx, Francisco Moser,
> > > Raymond
> > > Polidor and built by Cadillac in America, not the Ferrari factory in
> > > Mexico."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/6/01 10:22:08 PM, tech@worrall.co.nz writes:
> > >
> > > << CYCLESTORE@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi gang,
> > > >
> > > > On the Peugeot Masi's. These bikes would have been pointless to
> > > construct as
> > > > I have been told that Peugeot had a race shop to build team and
> > > custom bikes
> > > > to order for many years.
> > >
> > > The same could be said about Bianchi, yet Coppi had some frames
> > > built by Masi
> > > when
> > > he rode for Bianchi.
> > > DB
> > > >>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > _______________________________________________
>
> _______________________________________________
>

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