At the end of my post, I meant to say, "my guess is that it is because of the abundance (this is a fact) of NOS GS and Rally small parts available from some distributors".
Marc Boral Long Beach, CA
At 05:31 PM 11/27/2001, Marc Boral wrote:
>The derailleur in question is not a factory unit from the approx. dates
>stated. It was simply created from the NR and GS and Rally
>derailleurs. This particular example shown on Ebay is VERY easy to
>assemble. The obvious clues that this is not a derailleur from the dates
>claimed, are:
>
>1) The spindles (808/A) are steel type, from '80s.
>2) The outer arm (806/A) is late style. The early NR outer arms are
>distinguishable by fatter letters, amongst other things.
>3) The upper body (805/A) and return spring (98/A) are late style, 80s.
>4) No date on upper body....'84 on.
>
>There has been no spindle replacement. Someone simply took a fully
>assembled LATE MODEL NR parallelogram assembly and mounted it to some
>Rally cage plates. They used a GS spring cage bolt (3505) and spring cage
>cover (3508) instead of a NR for some reason, but no skill
>required....once the cage plates are off, just slip the original
>bolt/cover off and slide the replacements on.
>
>Now, if you want to make the argument that Campy possibly made these
>"RARE" :-) derailleurs in the '80s, that would be a little more
>believable. But what has happened here is someone just converted a bunch
>of derailleurs. We can only speculate what the person's motive was. My
>guess is that there is an abundance of NOS GS and Rally small parts
>available from some distributors.
>
>Marc Boral
>Long Beach, CA
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>At 10:56 AM 11/27/2001, Hilary Stone wrote:
>>Another identical one NOS in its original box turned up earlier this year in
>>England. I think however that Campagnolo almost certainly used parts from
>>their own parts bin. This derailleur came off a one owner bike and I think
>>that its history is beyond question - there is certainly no question of it
>>being a forgery in the sense that someone has deliberately put together an
>>ultra rare derailleur. And Chuck Schmidt has come across a couple of
>>similar derailleurs to the one I have turned up but has no other info on
>>them.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Hilary Stone, in rather miserable, drizzly Bristol
>>
>>
>> > Hilary posted this for sale and talks about it being a NR that was made
>> > perhaps prior to the Rally?
>> >
>> > This is a "first" to me... Anyone see this one before? It sure does have
>> > those somewhat nasty GS hex head pivot bolts.
>> >
>> > http://ebay.com/
>> >
>> > Dale Brown
>> > Greensboro, North Carolina