Re: [CR]Is it art or engineering?

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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 08:54:37 -0800
Subject: Re: [CR]Is it art or engineering?
From: "D. Kennard" <d.kennard@home.com>
To: Jerry Moos <moos@penn.com>
Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
In-Reply-To: <3AA7B488.3AACF8EC@penn.com>


Gang,

I remember a friends high school art teacher saying: "who is to say what IS art, and what is NOT?" Something like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". My neighbor walked into my garage full of collectable (to me) vintage lightweight bikes, shook his head and said "They all look the same to me; just a bunch of bikes. Why would you want more than one?". Cheers,

Duane "lover of art I recognize" Kennard
  
> Then, what, pray tell, is a "true artist"? Only painters and sculpters? Must
> a statue be in marble the be art, or can it be cast in bronze? Steel? If
> steel, must it stand in front of a bank, or can it grace the hood of a
> Packard, or Deusenberg or Rolls or Bentley? What
> about the headbadge of a Hetchins? Are great furniture designers not artists
> because one can sit on theit works? Was Frank Lloyd Wright not an artist
> because one can live in his works? Must an object be devoid of any practical
> use to be art? And if buildings and furniture
> and engraved gold pocket watches are art, why not bicycles?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> brucerobbins@worldmailer.com wrote:
>
>> To suggest that framebuilding is an artform is to denigrate true artists.
>> What I admire in a frame is not its artistic qualities but its engineering.
>> It's similar to an old Leica or a Bristol Blenheim II: the appreciation is of
>> the craftsmanship. Bob Reid can speak for himself but I suspect that the fine
>> engineering behind the Flying Scot is what turns him on, cycling-wise.
>>
>> Elevating the Californian Masi makers to the level of artists merely confirms
>> everything the outside world (and there is one outwith California) thinks of
>> people who come from that state. (Email me off-list if you want to know what
>> that is but it's not for the squeamish).
>>
>> Bruce "Oops, there goes the special transatlantic relationship" Robbins.
>>
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