I'm of the school where form ought to follow function. I think the the curly stayed Hetchins are at best curious oddities and curly cued lugs are ugly.
However, a properly executed short pointed lug with or without windows is a thing of beauty. But, the bike better be a great ride!
Only my opinion, Nomex flame suit on.
Later, Jim
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Jerry Moos wrote:
> I think the art and engineering of bicycles IS what we admire most, or at least
> high on the list, so I welcome Bob stimulating a discussion of that. Some
> bikes, like curly stay Hetchins, are high art, while others like my recently
> acquired Teledyne and my long owned ALANs are fascinating exercises in
> innovative engineering. Maybe the engineering is "light" compared to a fighter
> plane or a formula one cars, but in some respects it is more challenging, as you
> only have the power of one human as an engine, not the 1000 hp of a formula one
> engine, and you can't design something that cost tens of millions of dollars
> like a fighter plane.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> walter skrzypek wrote:
>
> > Can we nip this before it gets out of control.
> >
> > *snip*
> > I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending into the depths of the
> > >"framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion group
> > >?
> > *snip*
> >
> > Notice he mentions that the postings appear to be going in the direction of
> > a "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion...HE
> > DOES NOT state this as his opinion but rather it is the tragic path these
> > posts are starting to follow. Please let us return to the classic posts and
> > let this die out. OR email offlist. Yes, once again, I can indeed use delete
> > but when I get through using delete as others have said, I am not getting a
> > whole lot of other posts remaining. let us refocus back to what we all
> > admire most and cycling.
> >
> > Walt Skrzypek
> > Falls Creek, Pa
> > "believing the confente/medici/masi/... is beginning to look like the 2000
> > gore/bush election"
> >
> > >From: "Steven L. Sheffield" <stevens@veloworks.com>
> > >To: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>, Classic Rendezvous
> > ><classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [CR]Mario Confente (was inconsequential bollocks)
> > >Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 06:22:56 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >Frame building is more than just light engineering.
> > >It is more than just craftsmanship.
> > >It is more than art.
> > >
> > >It is all three.
> > >
> > >The engineering comes in designing a bike that won't fall apart when
> > >ridden.
> > >The craft is taking the design and building it consistently well.
> > >The art is in making it look beautiful rather than just functional.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Steven L. Sheffield
> > >stevens at veloworks dot com
> > >veloworks at earthlink dot net
> > >aitch tee tea pea colon [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you
> > >double-yew double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Bob Reid <bob.reid@btconnect.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >[snip]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm saddened to see that yet again we are descending into the depths of
> > >the
> > > > "framebuilding is art rather than just light engineering" discussion
> > >group ?