It's still hard to figure why it's worth more than two or three complete running Richard Sach's equipped with Record 10, for instance. DF ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Supply and Demand? CS ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ $5500-Price for Richard Sachs Signature XXV Replica model frameset assembled with 2001 Campagnolo Record 10 ensemble. (without pedals!). You demand it. I'll supply it. And how come all you guys aren't out riding today?? I'm forgoing today's race because my mom is visiting tomorrow and i'm washing windows today. Yesterday, I rented the Rug Doctor. Leave your laptops, for christ' sake. GO RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! e-RICHIE http://www.richardsachs.com