Re: [CR]modern race bikes collectable?

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tom Dalton" <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]modern race bikes collectable?
To: dave bohm <davebohm@home.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <004a01c1143b$2be776a0$56f90541@tucson1.az.home.com>


--- dave bohm <davebohm@home.com> wrote:
> I was thinking that maybe ultra modern bicycles
> may not be very collectable at all in the future.
> When the only redeeming factor is the use of the
> latest technology this easily gets overshadowed by
> future perceived improvements.

I think you have a good point. If we are talking about things that represent wierd diversions on the technological evolutionary path, dead ends so to speak, we are probably talking about things that will never have much value on the collector market. The only exception here might be something that becomes so notorious as totally crappy that people might want it just for the novelty (does this explain collecting Lamberts?). So yes, while some may consider it cutting edge, a Softride with Spox and an all-American CNC grouppo will probably never have collectable value because it is not part of any real continuum (and because it's crap, and because no real racer ever mounted one). On the other hand the latest stuff from established companies like Bianchi and Colnago have potential value after the new-tech glow is gone.
> lightweight goodies of the 70's and 80's are quite
> inexpensive today.

The stuff that fits into the continuum, like 1st gen SR and old-logo Cinelli, is nothing close to cheap. The stuff that was off the beaten path (Weyless, Gippiemme, even early Dura Ace) is all pretty much a bargain.

If you look at the same trend in
> cars, in some circumstances full blown race cars of
> the past, even Indy cars can be picked up for a
> song.

Unlike race bikes, race cars are only suitable for racing and unless they have exceptional pedigree, hold limited appeal to potential collectors. There just aren't that many guys out there with the money to pay big bucks for some old F-1 car from a second tier team, when collector-market cost is viewed relative to original production costs. Look at old homolagated (drivable) cars from companies with established records in competition (Ferrari, Porsche, Shelby...) and you'll see some nutty prices.
>
> Tom Dalton
>
>
>
>
> At 09:45 AM 7/23/2001 -0700, Tom Dalton wrote:
> > > An odd sentiment to express on this list !
> >
> > To my mind, a
> >limited production, up-to-the minute, top-end
> bike has
> >far more potential to be an interesting
> collectable
> >than a new bike purchased today as a nostalgia
> piece.
> >In other words, twenty years from now Colnago C40
> with
> >9-speed Dura Ace will be a lot more interesting
> than a
> >Rivendell with a bunch of retro Bobish bits
>
>
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