WRT classic touring shorts, Brandon Ives said <snip>
Their web
site is http://www.jacksongibbens.com/
Many years ago, Beloved Spouse and I did make classic wool shorts w. chamois. Unless you get a really great deal on the material and have access to a perfect pattern, and really enjoy sewing stretchy stuff, I would not advise this as a fun game.
Your results may vary...
harvey sachs
mcLean va