Bar non, we don't strip down bikes in good original condition!
But we do swaps every once in awhile to get that part to that customer who is in need! Off comes the new part and on goes a rebuilt!...........Even at times the cost of the parts of the rebuilt item is worth more in dollars and cents!.........Add in the time of rebuilding the part and it's a lost!
At the same time many are seeing less ''TOP SHELF!'' offerings on the market place within the U.S.................As for Europe there are some ''VERY NICE!'' stashes here and there of which we are making an effort to acquire!..............If we don't then most of it will end up heading East or in the dump, as like 40,000 pairs of ''NOS!'' tubulars. Many of these came form the old Flandria factory................With lots of Fiammis in the mix!..........All for the price of scrap metal!........300 complete sets of clamp-on Campagnolo Porta Cantina found it's way to the sidewalk in Downtown Amsterdam with lots of other goodies of which I will not say!.....And ''NO!'' I didn't score any of this stuff.............I was sick from the thought of these items ending up where they did! I told these guys when you do the move let me know and I will pay for the stuff that you will be dumping! But they didn't.................Tax right offs!
One of our project is to bring in hundereds of so~so NOS wheelsets are some of the left overs from Flandria. They will be stripped down for the rims, Fiammi REDs & ERGALs with a some Super Champion in the mix. Hubs are shimano 600AX.............Anybody in need of these hubsets, less the QRs. $ 3.- pp. Will be available this winter.
Our 2 cents!
BC Baron Corpuz................And the gang!.Eindhoven.........Holland.
> >
> > LouDeeter@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > In a message dated 9/12/2002 7:15:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > chuckschmidt@earthlink.net writes:
> > > > Part it out or sell as complete bike. Which would net maximum
> > > > dollars he asked?
> > > >
> > > Having parted a bunch of bikes, my experience tells me the sum of the
parts
> > > is higher than the sum of the whole. Unless the bike is one of those
rare
> > > bikes or has a heritage that makes it a collector bike with the
original
> > > parts, you will almost always get more if you sell the parts and the
> > > frame/fork separately. Since I don't buy bikes that fit that
category, I
> > > have no knowledge of that end of the market. Since I always advertise
a
> > > "shipped" price, I just have to watch shipping as the rates have
increased
> > > this past couple of years. My wife doesn't like all the trips to the
post
> > > office either, but that's another story. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
> >
> > And what about parting out a perfect Frejus that is 30 years old and
> > unridden. The high point in my mind for Frejus was when Ferdi Kubler of
> > Switzerland won the TdF in 1950 on a Frejus.
> >
> > So by 1972 was a Frejus just chopped liver and not to be thought of as a
> > big deal in 2002.
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
> > Chuck Schmidt
> > SoPas, SoCal
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> Listmembers,
>
>
>
> This is one opinion many may not want to hear; but opinions are being
>
> solicited so here goes.
>
>
>
> I see the parting out of a bike that has survived 30 years in original
>
> condition to be slightly less than criminal. To me it shows a
>
> considerable lack of respect for not only how few bikes make it anywhere
>
> near that long in original condition (we do have respect for these
>
> bikes, don't we?) but also a lack of respect and consideration for the
>
> person on the other end of having to now search out the "missing" parts
>
> to make it whole again which will involve considerable time and expense.
>
> I'm sure there are cases where once the parts are stripped the frame
>
> never becomes a whole bike again before it finds it's way to the
>
> landfill. The degree of viloation does depend on the bike in question,
>
> but overall viewing these classics in terms of dollars and cents seems
>
> very selfish. What about their value as a historical referance of what
>
> was available on any given example at any given time? The subtle details
>
> are cast aside as soon as that bik is altered or seperated. My feeling
>
> is there are still a decent number of parts available to complete
>
> projects without taking the few excellent condition original bikes and
>
> devouring them like vultures. As time goes on and fewer parts and bikes
>
> are available to a growing number of enthusiasts prices will rise; so
>
> what's new about that. These items are already finite. Perhaps it would
>
> be more benificial to everyone if we all amplify our efforts to ferret
>
> out the bikes that are still waiting to be discovered in whatever
>
> condition they are in and put them into circulation instead of milking
>
> every opportunity to get maximum dollars out of everything that turns
>
> up. I don't feel I can adequately express my inner feelings on this
>
> subject (for the first time in all of my writings) and I'm sure there
>
> are many who can't comprehend my thinking. If someone is in the position
>
> of having to feed their family with the proceeds from butchering an
>
> original bike that makes me sad on several accounts; primarily that
>
> parting out bikes is not a good way to raise the money. Get a real job
>
> for real responsibilities. Taking it out on our hobby is ineffecient and
>
> a disservice to the bikes (I hope) we all love. The eBay mentality has a
>
> stranglehold on every collectable item (and everything else as well) no
>
> matter what it is. Many enjoy it and a considerable number of people are
>
> profiting from it, but I am not one of them. In my position I could be,
>
> but I don't have the heart (or stomach) for it, sorry.
>
>
>
> I sincerely apologize if anyone is offended by my opinion; it is just
>
> and only that. My opinion will not change the course of the world. I
>
> appreciate this forum to express my opinions when asked and I will not
>
> pass judgement on anyone no matter what course one chooses. I will
>
> simply state that in my life pretty much everything is more valuable to
>
> me than money. I may be the odd man out on this issue which is fine by
>
> me; but these things pain me deeply. I realize it's my problem and I
>
> will deal with it.
>
>
>
> Brian Baylis
>
> La Mesa, CA
>
> Never mind me; I'm just a stick in the mud anyway.
>
> >
>
> > LouDeeter@aol.com wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > In a message dated 9/12/2002 7:15:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> > > chuckschmidt@earthlink.net writes:
>
> > > > Part it out or sell as complete bike. Which would net maximum
>
> > > > dollars he asked?
>
> > > >
>
> > > Having parted a bunch of bikes, my experience tells me the sum of the
parts
>
> > > is higher than the sum of the whole. Unless the bike is one of those
rare
>
> > > bikes or has a heritage that makes it a collector bike with the
original
>
> > > parts, you will almost always get more if you sell the parts and the
>
> > > frame/fork separately. Since I don't buy bikes that fit that
category, I
>
> > > have no knowledge of that end of the market. Since I always advertise
a
>
> > > "shipped" price, I just have to watch shipping as the rates have
increased
>
> > > this past couple of years. My wife doesn't like all the trips to the
post
>
> > > office either, but that's another story. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
>
> >
>
> > And what about parting out a perfect Frejus that is 30 years old and
>
> > unridden. The high point in my mind for Frejus was when Ferdi Kubler of
>
> > Switzerland won the TdF in 1950 on a Frejus.
>
> >
>
> > So by 1972 was a Frejus just chopped liver and not to be thought of as a
>
> > big deal in 2002.
>
> >
>
> > Opinions?
>
> >
>
> > Chuck Schmidt
>
> > SoPas, SoCal
>
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>
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>
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