Re: [CR]Follis 172 wheels

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From: "David Feldman" <feldmans1@earthlink.net>
To: "Jerry & Liz Moos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <009901c261a5$97f66280$c0061c41@kc.rr.com> <0d8e01c26287$e8306d30$efddfea9@mooshome>
Subject: Re: [CR]Follis 172 wheels
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 15:55:49 -0500

Jerry, I assembled a whole bunch of 172's; the original wheels were Normandy or equivalent high flange hubs laced to Mavic Sport tubular rims. Colors were white with black lugs, light blue with dark blue, and a kind of cafe au lait with dark brown lugs--actually very attractive bikes and quicker handling than PX10's or other similar French cheap race bikes of the time. Jim Holly, what can you add?
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA


----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry & Liz Moos
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 5:32 PM
Subject: [CR]Follis 172 wheels



> Anyone know what size the original wheels were on the early 70's Follis
> 172's? For those not familiar, the 172 was a 531 DB main tube,
> French-equipped model, much like the Peugeot PR-10 or other French "club
> racer" models. I have a circa 1973 one with numerous little paint scratches
> and chips, but original decals, probably too good to repaint, but no
> showpiece, that I intend to use as a commuter. It came with 27" clinchers,
> the front, maybe original, on a Normandy Sport hub, the back, obviously
> nonoriginal, on a Japanese hub. I've fitted it with SKS mudguards and Conti
> 27 - 1 1/4 tires (actually 30 mm wide), but with these, rear wheel removal
> is very difficult, usually involving removing the QR skewer so the rear axle
> can clear the dropout and RD. I'm wondering if maybe this model originally
> came with 700C sewups, and though 27" works OK with narrow tires and no
> mudguards, wasn't really designed with 27" wheels in mind. Anyone ever buy
> one new or with what were certainly original wheels? I'm thinking I might
> be better off to fit 700C clinchers for commuting, to ease changing rear
> tires (inevitably in a driving rain). This suggests a broader question
> about late 60's/ early 70's French bikes in general. At that time, 700C
> clinchers were unknown in the US, and European and British lightweights were
> sold here with either 700C sewups or 27" clinchers, but I'm not at all sure
> the French bikes were ever designed for 27" wheels. They may rather have
> been designed for 700C wheels, and simply took advantage of the ample frame
> clearance of that era to slap on 27" wheels for the US market. Anyone know
> what wheels the Peugeot UO-8's sold in France in the early 70's had? Were
> 700C clinchers already in use there? I would think the UO-8 was too low-end
> for sewups, and that the 650B's used on French pure touring bikes and
> tandems were too small. Of course the UO-8 I bought in Cleveland in 1972
> (my first lightweight) had 27" wheels for the US market.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick Chasteen" <rchasteen@kc.rr.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 2:32 PM
> Subject: [CR]Highpath Chainring prices
>
>
> Note the disclaimer at the end for North Americans.
>
> Rick Chasteen, Kansas City
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Highpath" <highpath@argonet.co.uk>
> To: "Rick Chasteen" <rchasteen@kc.rr.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Chainring prices
>
>
> > On 09 Sep, Rick Chasteen <rchasteen@kc.rr.com> wrote:
> > > Chris:
> >
> > > Would you please email me a price list? That page is currently
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