[CR]Follis 172 wheels

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From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <009901c261a5$97f66280$c0061c41@kc.rr.com>
Subject: [CR]Follis 172 wheels
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 17:32:16 -0500

Anyone know what size the original wheels were on the early 70's Follis 172's? For those not familiar, the 172 was a 531 DB main tube, French-equipped model, much like the Peugeot PR-10 or other French "club racer" models. I have a circa 1973 one with numerous little paint scratches and chips, but original decals, probably too good to repaint, but no showpiece, that I intend to use as a commuter. It came with 27" clinchers, the front, maybe original, on a Normandy Sport hub, the back, obviously nonoriginal, on a Japanese hub. I've fitted it with SKS mudguards and Conti 27 - 1 1/4 tires (actually 30 mm wide), but with these, rear wheel removal is very difficult, usually involving removing the QR skewer so the rear axle can clear the dropout and RD. I'm wondering if maybe this model originally came with 700C sewups, and though 27" works OK with narrow tires and no mudguards, wasn't really designed with 27" wheels in mind. Anyone ever buy one new or with what were certainly original wheels? I'm thinking I might be better off to fit 700C clinchers for commuting, to ease changing rear tires (inevitably in a driving rain). This suggests a broader question about late 60's/ early 70's French bikes in general. At that time, 700C clinchers were unknown in the US, and European and British lightweights were sold here with either 700C sewups or 27" clinchers, but I'm not at all sure the French bikes were ever designed for 27" wheels. They may rather have been designed for 700C wheels, and simply took advantage of the ample frame clearance of that era to slap on 27" wheels for the US market. Anyone know what wheels the Peugeot UO-8's sold in France in the early 70's had? Were 700C clinchers already in use there? I would think the UO-8 was too low-end for sewups, and that the 650B's used on French pure touring bikes and tandems were too small. Of course the UO-8 I bought in Cleveland in 1972 (my first lightweight) had 27" wheels for the US market.


Jerry Moos
Houston, TX

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From: Rick Chasteen
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 2:32 PM
Subject: [CR]Highpath Chainring prices

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Rick Chasteen, Kansas City

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Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Chainring prices

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