Hello Kevin and list, Kevin I would say ride whatever is comfortable- for hands and saddle and save/sell what you don't want....After reading Kevin's description of his newly acquired '73 Cinelli, I questioned that Phil Wood was even around in 1973. A quick search showed that PHIL WOOD IS 30 YEARS OLD AND IS HAVING A 30 YEAR CLEAN OUT THE WAREHOUSE SALE!!!.....So far only some rims are listed(not Phil Wood products).Check out: http://www.philwood.com Yours truly, Martin Walsh in Vienna,Va., USA
kevin gosney wrote:
> Listmembers,
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> I'm soliciting your thoughts on how to "finish" my red '73 Cinelli Special Corsa, serial #1748. It is as original now as the day it was purchased from Spence Wolf's Cupertino Bike Shop on September 6, 1973 (thanks Vance). So what's the problem you ask? I understand that Spence had an issue with how Cinelli packed their frames for shipping, therefore he specified no downtube decals be applied at the factory . ergo, this beauty has no downtube decals. The original buyer requested an Avocet Racing II saddle, Phil bottom bracket and thin foam Grab-On handlebar wrap. Fortunately the original owner also bought a Campy bbkt and Cinelli #2 saddle along with the bike, these I have,both NOS/NIP. So your thoughts: have dt decals applied and change out the saddle, bbkt and handlebar wrap, or leave as Spence and the original buyer intended?
> cool, drizzle in P-Town
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> Kevin
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> >Date: 30 Jan 2002 12:04:41 -0800
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> > 1. Re: Woooooooo. The zeus brakes are gone! Please leave my inbox alone. (OROBOYZ@aol.com)
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> > 2. Re: quinn on eBay (Mike Self)
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> > 3. Cosmetically sympathetic wheel components (feldman)
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> > 4. Ideale Mod. 80 and 90: Brooks equivalents? (Lee Berg)
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> > 5. Forgot to Change subject line to Brooks Saddle comfort (Mike Self)
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> > 6. Re: Re: cyclocross (Sarah Gibson)
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> > 7. RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima (Alan)
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> > 8. San Antonio tomorrow... (OROBOYZ@aol.com)
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> > 9. Re: Herse on Ebay (Fred Rafael Rednor)
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> > 10. Re: RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima (Philcycles@aol.com)
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> > 11. wool jerseys on eBay (Ray Coffey)
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> >Message: 1
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> >From: OROBOYZ@aol.com
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:00:04 EST
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]Woooooooo. The zeus brakes are gone! Please leave my inbox alone.
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> >To: REClassicBikes@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >In a message dated 1/30/2002 11:19:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> >REClassicBikes@aol.com writes:
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> >
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> ><< Being the list manager has some benefits as Dale got first shout. >>
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> >
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> >Hey now! I am playing fair as I get the CR e-mail at the same time as the
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> >rest of you nerds!
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> >FYI, many many months ago, I rid myself of "editing" the mail before its
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> >posted. Now I get it when the rest of you do...
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> >Dale Brown
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> >Greensboro, North Carolina
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> >Message: 2
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> >From: "Mike Self"
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> >To: "Questor"
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> > "classicrendezvous"
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:47:05 -0500
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> >
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> >Steve,
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> >
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> >I bet your saddle sores come from your period correct Professional saddle
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> >vs. the B17's I ride. For many of us I think Grant P. is correct, the B17
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> >is more comfortable.
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> >
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> >If you are racing/training maybe the Professional's narrower shape is
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> >better; I was never a racer so I don't know.
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> >
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> >Mike Self
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> >Cincinnati, OH
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> >
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> >----- Original Message -----
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> >From: "Questor"
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> >To: "classicrendezvous"
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> >Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:20 PM
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay
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> >
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> >
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> > > Please make that "Bracing for torture by Brooks seat saddle sores this
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> > > weekend in Cincinnati, OH"
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> > >
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> >Message: 3
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> >From: "feldman"
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:16:30 -0800
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> >Subject: [CR]Cosmetically sympathetic wheel components
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> >
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> >This came about during a phone discussion with another listmember =
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> >yesterday. I have a bike repair business, he was asking me about the =
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> >availability of period spokes--Robergel, Radealli (spelling?) etc. I =
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> >proposed a few items that have superior modern quality (this boy has =
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> >built wheels for 30 years, I don't want to hear about good, old spokes =
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> >as there weren't any!) but vintage appearance for cyclists who want =
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> >spokes that don't break and might not want to use tubular tires. These =
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> >are my favorites for period appearance with modern reliability, it would =
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> >be good to hear any others:
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> >Spokes: Wheelsmith butted have a sharper transition between butt and =
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> >midsection that looks more like an older type of spoke than DT's more =
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> >gradual diameter change.
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> >Rims: Torelli Expert, 480 gram clincher rim of a squarer appearance, =
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> >clear anodized, shaped like old Mavic Mod E.
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> >At ten feet it would look acceptably like an old tubular rim especially =
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> >when shod with:
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> >Tires: Vredestein Fortezza, or Rivendel Roly Poly depending on how =
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> >skinny or fat a tire you want. Both fast rolling, comfortable, and =
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> >tough. Both have skin sidewalls and black tread. Hope this keeps =
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> >anyone from setting their 1965 classic up with blue Open Pros and =
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> >green-striped Michelins!
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> >David Feldman
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> >Message: 4
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:39:34 -0800
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> >From: Lee Berg
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> >To: classicrendezvous
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> >Subject: [CR]Ideale Mod. 80 and 90: Brooks equivalents?
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> >
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> >In terms of size and shape, what are the closest Brooks equivalents to
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> >the Ideale Model 80 and Model 90? For saddles of the same period, how
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> >does Ideale quality compare to Brooks?
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> >Lee Berg
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> >Palo Alto, Calif.
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> >Message: 5
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> >From: "Mike Self"
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> >To: "classicrendezvous"
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:45:35 -0500
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> >Subject: [CR]Forgot to Change subject line to Brooks Saddle comfort
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> >Sorry gang,
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> >
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> >Before someone zings me, I apologize for not changing the subject line on my
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> >previous email.
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> >Mike Self
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> >Cincinnati. OH
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> >----- Original Message -----
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> >From: "Mike Self"
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> >To: "Questor"
> ; "classicrendezvous"
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> >
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> >Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:47 AM
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay
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> >
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> >
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> > > Steve,
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> > >
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> > > I bet your saddle sores come from your period correct Professional saddle
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> > > vs. the B17's I ride. For many of us I think Grant P. is correct, the B17
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> > > is more comfortable.
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> > >
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> > > If you are racing/training maybe the Professional's narrower shape is
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> > > better; I was never a racer so I don't know.
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> > >
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> > > Mike Self
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> > > Cincinnati, OH
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> > >
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> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > From: "Questor"
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> > > To: "classicrendezvous"
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> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 9:20 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: [CR]quinn on eBay
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > > Please make that "Bracing for torture by Brooks seat saddle sores this
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> > > > weekend in Cincinnati, OH"
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> >Message: 6
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> >From: "Sarah Gibson"
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> >To: sadiejane9@hotmail.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]Re: cyclocross
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:55:21
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> >
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> >sorry
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> >the real link would be
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> >www.oldtowncyclery.com/oldcross.htm
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> >
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> > >From: "Sarah Gibson"
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> > >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> > >Subject: [CR]Re: cyclocross
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> > >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:59:55
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> > >
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> > >hi all
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> > >it's hard to tell exactly what the bikes are outfitted with but the photos
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> > >are fun to check out, nontheless.
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> > >http://www.oldtowncyclery.com/index2.htm
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> > >have fun. and if you have any to add i would be most interested. thanks
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> > >peace
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> > >sarah
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> > >finally "icebiking" in kansas city
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> >Sarah Gibson * Old Town Cyclery * Lenexa * Kansas
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> >13440 Sante Fe Trail
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> >Lenexa, KS 66215
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> >Message: 7
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> >Reply-To:
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> >From: "Alan"
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> >To:
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 09:43:50 -0800
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> >Subject: [CR]RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima
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> >
>
> >Mark (and others)
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> >
>
> >Remember the brown metallic 1964 "competizione" that was for sale at last
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> >spring's Great Western Bike Rally? In my size BTW - another one I let slip
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> >through my fingers!
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> >
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> > >>>I have always thought that the Specialissima and the Competizione came in
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> >the same colors, which I believe, but can not prove, were black, white,
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> >celeste, and candy-blue, -red, & -green.<<<
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> >
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> >
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> >Alan Cline
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> >Technical Sales
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> >CoMotion Cycles
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> >4765 Pacific Ave.
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> >Eugene, OR 97402
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> >
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> >(541)342-4583 FAX 342-2210
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> >www.co-motion.com
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> >mailto:alan@co-motion.com
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> >Check out our new FAQ page on the web site!!!
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> >Message: 8
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> >From: OROBOYZ@aol.com
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:07:57 EST
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> >To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >Subject: [CR]San Antonio tomorrow...
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> >
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> >I am making a last minute dash out to BREC (Bicycle Retailers Education
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> >Conference) this weekend.. Will I see any of you there?
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> >I will have a day to fiddle around and of course would like to visit some
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> >bike shops. Recommendations? Of course with an emphasis on classic
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> >lightweights....
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> >
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> >Thanks
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> >Dale
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> >
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> >Dale Brown
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> >cycles de ORO, Inc.
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> >1410 Mill Street
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> >Greensboro, North Carolina
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> >USA 27408
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> >336-274-5959
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> >Fax 336-274-6360
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> >
> cyclesdeORO.com
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> >
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> >Message: 9
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:12:35 -0800 (PST)
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> >From: Fred Rafael Rednor
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> >Reply-To: fred_rednor@yahoo.com
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]Herse on Ebay
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> >To: Takao Noda
> ,
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> > Classic Bike List
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> >
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> > > I have heard that Japanese collectors cannot very
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> > > proudly show off their bikes which they couldn't
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> > > ride beautifully , even if they seldom ride them.
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> >Is it likely that he would bring the frame to a Japanese
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> >builder and have a "duplicate" made in a smaller size?
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> >Of course the decals wouldn't say Rene Herse"...
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> > Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
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> >
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> >__________________________________________________
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> >Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions!
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> >Message: 10
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> >From: Philcycles@aol.com
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> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:14:43 EST
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> >Subject: Re: [CR]RE: The color of a Bianchi Specialissima
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> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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> >
>
> >
>
> >In a message dated 1/30/02 10:01:46 AM, alan@co-motion.com writes:
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> >
>
> ><< Remember the brown metallic 1964 "competizione" that was for sale at last
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> >
>
> >spring's Great Western Bike Rally? In my size BTW - another one I let slip
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> >
>
> >through my fingers!
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> >
>
> >
>
> > >>>I have always thought that the Specialissima and the Competizione came in
>
> >
>
> >the same colors, which I believe, but can not prove, were black, white,
>
> >
>
> >celeste, and candy-blue, -red, & -green.<<<
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> >
>
> > >>
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> >
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> >I've seen brown, bright green, red and Celeste.
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> >Phil Brown
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> >NoHo, Ca
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> >
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> >Message: 11
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> >From: "Ray Coffey"
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> >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>
> >Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:20:31 -0500
>
> >Subject: [CR]wool jerseys on eBay
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> >
>
> >Casati size medium jersey: http://ebay.com/
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> >
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> >Lambertini jersey with front pockets(!), size medium: http://ebay.com/
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> >No connection to sellers, too small for me, thought they were nifty.
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> >Ray Coffey
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> >Boston, Mass.
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