[CR]Re: Brand Loyalty

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

From: "Herb Langston" <langston@interaccess.com>
In-reply-to: <20021025003100.92725.94987.Mailman@phred.org>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Re: Brand Loyalty
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 22:31:35 -0500

Which is a topic that is getting off topic... _______________________________ Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com> wrote:
>Just to muddy the waters. The New Mini Coopers are made by BMW in England.

BMW also owns Land Rover.

_______________________________ The Maaslands <TheMaaslands@comcast.net> wrote:
>You should be aware that much of the Harley-Davidson accessories are already
>made in China and are selling well. Porsche is building the new Cayenne in
>Eastern Europe, BMW builds engines in Brazil and one of their most popular
>vehicles, the X5, here in the US... Neither the Cayenne nor the X5 have
>German production or culture: in fact both are disdained by most Germans.

Yes, the numerous rich urban bikers buy accessories by the boatload, while the Harley faithful bitch about the quality. I have some of the accessories and I have had no problems with them, other than really thin chrome.

The Germans probably disdain the R1200C "Cruiser" motorcycle, too, which was designed by BMW's California design shop.

_______________________________ Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote:
>not to switch gears here...
>but i think, (I THINK), that this assumption is the root of all
>the disagreement and differing opinions.

Please switch gears. I want to get out of this thread.

_______________________________ Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Herb, not my post actually. A little more care in quoting posts perhaps?

I am really sorry. So much mail hit me all of a sudden, and I totally screwed that up. My apologies.

_______________________________ Dennis Young <mail@woodworkingboy.com> wrote:
>Years ago Harley decided to have their engines made in Japan and guess what?
>They stopped leaking oil!! Brand origin loyalty is great thing, but going
>into the garage for a screwdriver and slipping and breaking your neck is
>another.

Ha. Old joke. Harleys lost their reputation as oil leaking bikes when the built the Evo engine in 1984. The new TwinCam is also oil tight, as is the new V-Rod (whose engine was designed by Porsche!).

Harleys built in Japan? You wish. The Showa shocks and Mikuni carbs come from our friends in Japan, but the engines are built in York, PA.

Say what you will about Harley, but they are a world leader in brand loyalty.

_______________________________ Let's start talking about something else. Proposed topics: - Aliens Abducted My Masi - I Had Fausto Coppi's Love Child - Elvis Spotted Riding Gold Colnago

Herb Langston
Evanston, IL