Re: [CR]was nagasawa, now perception versus reality

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From: "Takao Noda" <tanoda@d1.dion.ne.jp>
To: "Classic Bike List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]was nagasawa, now perception versus reality
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:21:42 +0900

Though I have not betted on Keirin racers and don't have much information, sometimes I wonder why Keirin authority limited the suppliers of frames to about 50 Japanese steel frame builders who passed the examination. It is said that the purpose is to prevent accidents due to breakage.
    But I see on TV some racers ride frames whose seat angle is near vertical.This is the most recent innovation I know. It seems dangerious to me.
    When keirin racers go to Olympics and World Championship , Keirin authority give them Look aluminium frames and disk wheels. But tig-welded steel frame did not pass the examination. Is Look aluminium frame stronger than tig-welded steel frame?
    Keirin authority may intend to make Japanese small builders survive a little longer.
    I don't know if newer thin steel-alloy tubes are used or not, but I know Reynolds 753 is used. I think there is not the regulation of bike weights.
    I think aluminium or carbon frames would make keirin races more popular among young generation. Sometimes I see betters on trains . Almost all look older than I.
                          Takao Noda
                Hachioji Tokyo Japan


----- Original Message -----
From: David Feldman
To: Takao Noda


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 10:10 PM Subject: Re: [CR]was nagasawa, now perception versus reality


> Elliot Bay Bicycles in Seattle had a Nagasawa on display in the early
> 1980's, by no strange coincidence it was shortly before their Davidson
> frames started featuring more cast components. The whole keirin racing idea
> is really interesting--that rules keep bicycles very similar and at a
> rational state of development to better show the differences between
> athletes. Or could this be to keep bookmaking simpler, no handicapping for
> frame materials, bike weights, etc.?
> David Feldman
> Vancouver, WA