[CR]Fw: Hetchins ownership

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From: "Thomas Rawson" <twrawson@worldnet.att.net>
To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: [CR]Fw: Hetchins ownership
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 13:12:58 -0800

This just in from Flash on the weeks Hetchins thread. Think it adds some more important facts (yep facts) to the discussion.

Tom Rawson
Oakland, CA


----- Original Message -----
From: flash
To: Thomas Rawson
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Hetchins ownership



> Dear Tom and the CR,
>
> Let me weigh in here with a few remarks re Hetchins and Omega.
>
> Point one: the claims Joynt and co. make at the Hetchins.com web site
> need to be read very carefully, as the wording is quite precise. What
> they claim to own is the Hetchins NAME, not the Hetchins COMPANY, which
> they bought from COMPANIES HOUSE, not from the OWNER of the Hetchins
> company.
>
> Point two: the original company founded by Hyman (Harry) Hetchin has
> been in continuous existence and contiunuous production since its
> inception in the 1930s. It never lapsed. The Hetchins name was never up
> for grabs or 'improperly registered'. There is no such thing as an
> 'improperly registered' company. The current owner bought the company
> from Harry's son, Alf Hetchin, in 1986. The original company is still in
> business and is currently managed by David Miller.
>
> Point three: Joynt's claim that he did not find the Hetchins
> company merely proves that he did not look in the right places.
>
> Point four: if Joynt and co. did not know then (in the summer of 2001)
> that the original Hetchins company was still in existence, they
> certainly knew it soon after their web site (hetchins.com) appeared, as
> the legitimate owner's solicitors so informed them.
>
> Point five: just to get the time line right: the hetchins.com web site
> (viz Omega) appeared before hetchins.org did. My previous 'unofficial'
> Hetchins web site under a different URL preceeded the Omega/hetchins.com
> web site by at least a year. At the previous web site, it was made clear
> that David Miller was and is the manager of the Hetchins operation. I
> have web server records of which computers visited my web site on what
> days and what files they looked at; I can prove that Joynt and co.
> visited my web site; I therefore consider it beyond doubt that Joynt and
> co. knew where to find the real Hetchins company. It is too late in the
> game for Joynt to play innocent or innocently ignorant of what he was
> doing.
>
> Flash
> Historic Hetchins Web site