Re: [CR] Mythic Early SR Lever, afterward

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From: <nickzz@mindspring.com>
To: richardsachs@juno.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR] Mythic Early SR Lever, afterward
Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 21:39:09 -0500

Let me fill in some blanks regarding the levers in question.These were brought to the US by an importer who probably bought them at an Italian swap meet.

The ebay seller & I visited this importer about 8 months ago to see what he had for sale.I purchased two bicycles from the importer & he threw in several items as a deal sweetener.These levers were tied together with about 5-6 other misc levers & given to us.

I will contact the seller & if he has not shipped the lever we will get detailed photos for any one interested.

As a side note,if there was soooo much interest in verifing the existence of such a mythical part;why didn't some one step up and buy them?The selling price was certainly not in the stratosphere like the three of a kind Delta brakes.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga.

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 21:35:01 -0500 Richard M Sachs <richardsachs@juno.com> wrote:
> it's interesting how the placement of the
> campagnolo engraving
> differs from the left to the right lever;
> clearly, one is higher than
> the other:
>
>
> all the duane scans are from my catalogs and
> i'm still not a 'believer',
> though i'm ready for some hard evidence that
> these were really made.
> the campagnolo catalogs 'don't count' because
> they are drawings, not
> photographs. one of our euro-peers emailed me
> last week and said
> he actually found 2 pair of the mythical
> levers. i can't wait!
> p.s. i think that the lever shape changed
> waaaay before 78.
> e-RICHIE
> cross-in-the-a.m.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 17:25:55 -0800 (PST) brad
> stockwell
> writes:
> >
> > I'm intrigued by your post, curious about
> what you're getting at.
> > --Mark Bulgier
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark:
> >
> >
> >
> > There's a group of folks on the list who
> don't believe in early SR
> > levers (Campy brake levers of the pre-78
> long-reach style with
> > "Super Record" drilling) -- despite the fact
> that they are pictured
> > in Benotto catalog#2, 4.jpg, on the bates-lee
> scan-tastic
> > catalog-o-rama-thon and also in the original
> Austro Daimler
> > Superleicht brochure/poster (Stey?r Daimler
> Puch 1975), and also on
> > Merckx's bike during 1975 (eg see CycleSport
> Feb'98 pg 26, Merckx
> > climbing through the snow in the rainbow
> jersey).
> >
> >
> >
> > In these less-self-absorbed, post 9/11 days
> it isn't really of any
> > importance, of course, but among the
> disbelievers one 'grassy-knoll'
> > theory was that the catalogs just show
> re-touched photos of ordinary
> > levers. And that perhaps Merckx's or other
> levers were
> > custom-drilled one-offs.
> >
> >
> >
> > So along comes ebay item #1574399272 which
> appears to show a photo
> > of an actual old-style lever with Super
> Record perforations.
> > Further, the perforations are elongated like
> they might be if the
> > sheet metal was perforated prior to being
> formed into a lever. So I
> > couldn't help but be curious how the
> disbelievers might interpret
> > the entrails.
> >
> >
> >
> > Surprisingly, the seller argues in the
> auction text that the
> > levers are of no consequence because the
> holes are
> > punched-not-drilled.
> >
> >
> >
> > So far no one has recanted! What fun is
> that? I give it up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Brad Stockwell
> >
> > Palo Alto
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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