Re: [CR]using classic bicycles

(Example: Production Builders)

To: Gjvinbikes@aol.com
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:59:55 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]using classic bicycles
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


i said:

<the masi bicycles that were race-ready in the 70s are useless in today's racing environment.>

On Thu, 9 May 2002 11:38:03 EDT Gjvinbikes@aol.com writes: Wow. I am really sorry to hear you feel this way. Though the componentry has been improved in some cases (like Campy NR rear derailers ? clipless pedals ?), these bits can usually be replaced onto the 70s Masi frame.

I mean no disrespect here, but have to ask: are your current frames somehow better than the vintage Masi's you refer to above, or do you consider yours "useless in today's racing environment" as well ? Are they intended for other purposes than racing ? Glenn Jordan - Durham, NC /////////////////////////////////////////

okay. i can see i'm not going to get anything done today. if you can show me how to retro-fit modern wheels and the appropriate gear system on a 70s classic frame without adulterating it, then i'd say, "fair enough. the old iron would suffice." but... since compatilbilty issues caused by the industry are at the core of this problem, i stand by my point that, essentially, old (built up) bicycles are a liability in the racing environment. my 'modern' frames are made wth modern parts and materials and are compatible with current componentry. as i said in my other post, the fact that i still use lugs rather than welding or goop to keep the tubes together doesn't make my frames vintage or classic. it just means i use lugs. i love the older stuff. i love knowing the history and of the demi-gods and icons who were raising the bar years ago. i think my current work is better because i lived through 'that' era and respect it considerably. but i take from that what i can so that, in the present, i can hopefully raise the bar as well. e-RICHIE