Re: [CR] French technical trials

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Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 23:16:27 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] French technical trials
To: Brandon Ives <monkeylad@mac.com>, chuckschmidt@earthlink.net
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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The honest weight award goes to Frejus. The 1964 or so catalog says 24 lbs for the top model, Campy Record equipped with sew ups and a Brooks Pro. That weight would probably easily accomodate a 57 cm frame.

Joe


----- Original Message -----
From: Brandon Ives
To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [CR] French technical trials



> On Monday, 01, 2002, at 02:38PM, Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Brandon Ives wrote:
> >>I have also heard legends of, but never seen, sub 3 pound time-trial frames from the 50's and 60's. I have held in my hands Eddy's hour >>record bike and one of Beryl Burton's time-trial bikes and both were scary light.
> >
> >Hey, how 'bout a sub 1 pound time-trial frame from the 1890s?
> >
> >My opinion: The unrealistically low reported weights of bikes and bike
> >parts is notorious.
>
> I'm 100% with you on that and it's a practice that's only gotten worse with time. I was only putting out some options on how a bike that old could be that light, I didn't say it was that light. You will also note that I did use the word legends. What's the saying, "The older I get the faster I was."
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> Was never fast or light in
> Santa Barbara, Calif.