Assuming Jay was speaking of Teledyne or Speedwell, I'll say that the Teledyne, with tubing OD and wall thickness only slightly greater than the steel frames of the time, was noticeably flexier, as were the aluminumVitus frames of the era with tube OD similar to steel. Alan was a little closer to steel, I presume because they used thicker tube walls (witness the 25.0 seatpost). These bikes I know from having personally owned them, can't really comment on Speedwell. These frames were all lighter than the conventional 531 frames of the time, but I wouldn't call them "faster". As others have commented, you can make a frame of desired quality out of any of the common materials - Gary Klein demonstrated how to make a stiff aluminum frame (I think this was still in the "classic" era and therefore on topic) and thin walled steel frames can be made pretty flexy if you try. Never noticed the flexy Vitus 979 slowing Sean Kelly down much though.
Regards,
Jerry Moos
Houston, TX
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