Re: [CR]Fw: Ciocc, Cinelli


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From: Brian Baylis <rocklube@adnc.com>
To: Rich Rose <rrose@normandassociates.com>
Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Fw: Ciocc, Cinelli
References: <A9CF4EB95BC44C44A94CA51AF3FE90FEBB3C@server.normandassociates.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:48:12 -0700

Rich,

The primary actual use for vertical dropouts is on frames that are fitted with fenders. So technically the are for touring bikes.

Brian Baylis La Mesa, CA


>
> What exactly is the attraction to vertical rear dropouts? Not just on
> these otherwise somewhat traditional lugged steel frames, but on bikes
> in general? The only thing I can think of is faster wheel changes? Yeah,
> that's what I'm worried about!?
> Richard (likes mine horizontal) Rose
> Toledo, Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Rick
> Chasteen
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:07 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Fw: Ciocc, Cinelli
>
> All:
>
> I'm intrigued by these currently available lugged steel framesets. The
> Cinelli and Ciocc appear to be very nearly identical (OK, the tubing
> isn't) to frames produced during the latter part of the era we venerate
> while the Gios is a compact but still constructed with lugs.
>
> So, who is making these and how do they compare to their predecessors?
>
> Rick "I checked with Dale first" Chasteen, Kansas City
>
> http://www.excelsports.com/item.asp?major=1&minor=1&description=Compact+
> Pro+Frame+without+Fork&vendorCode=GIOS
>
> http://www.cbike.com/cinelli_frameset.htm
>
> http://www.cbike.com/ciocc_dr03.htm