Re: RE: [CR]Ken's impending departure

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From: "Peter Naiman" <vze4k5n6@verizon.net>
To: "Dennis Ryan" <angroch@insightbb.com>, <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: RE: [CR]Ken's impending departure
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 19:27:21 -0500


I had a long talk with Ken about getting back on the list, and he has said to me that he appreciates the overwhelming support from his friends on the list, but for personal reasons, he has regretfully declined to join us for now. Peter Naiman Boston, Mass


>
> From: "Dennis Ryan" <angroch@insightbb.com>
> Date: 2003/02/27 Thu PM 06:45:17 EST
> To: "Dennis Young" <mail@woodworkingboy.com>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Ken's impending departure
>
> I 32nd (or whatever) the motion to urge Ken to stay, and who else belongs on
> this list if not him? (and the other aforementioned members, Jan, Chuck, my
> good friend Bruce, e-pal e-RICHIE, and so many others whose expertise and
> views add so much to the list). The archives of this list will be a primary
> resource for the historians of the future, when -- who knows? the value of
> the bicycle to civilization may finally be recognized, and the classic
> lightweight as its pinnacle. IMHO. A lot of cycling "lore" would be lost, as
> a lot of it probably has been, for lack of a forum like this. Hold that
> line!
>
> And I say, if Ken really leaves, let's draft him.
>
> Dennis Ryan
> (ie "Other Dennis" ;-)
> Louisville KY
>
> PS The Other Other Dennis (below) said it best so far. Japan's had a good
> effect. Thanks for the image!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Young
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 6:25 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Ken's impending departure
>
>
> Ken,
>
> I was out riding the day before yesterday, out in the flats where I could
> watch the dark storm clouds start to move in over the mountains from the
> west. I remember thinking about some information you had earlier posted.
> Riding a cool bike and thinking about a bit of history along the way, the
> wheels making a whirr....what could be better!, and I can't put into words
> the value of this to me for my life. It has been a tough new year for a lot
> of people...may even get rougher. It's a time for resiliency, wish you'd
> stay with the CR list. I much appreciate your scholarly input, as do most I
> believe.
>
> Dennis Young
> Hotaka, Japan
>
> > ken denny wrote:
> >>
> >> Dale,
> >> Please remove me from your CR list. In three days I have been attacked
> from
> >> all directions, most recently this unprovoked diatrabe. I don't deserve
> this
> >> kind of garbage, nor do I wish to participate in dialogue that is not
> >> reciprocal and rewarding. I honestly do not need this kind of negativity.
> >> People on your list should get used to observation, comment and
> critique - it
> >> is a constructive process.
> >> It is more than obvious to me that the West-Coast contingent of this
> hobby
> >> has a negative impression of myself, and unfortunately I am not able to,
> nor
> >> have I ever been able to rectify the issues that they have infectiously
> and
> >> unilaterally fostered amongst themselves over the years.
> >> God luck to you and the CR group.
> >> Peace,
> >> Ken Denny
> >> Boston
> > ---