Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:41:14 -0500
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment
To: NortonMarg@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Seamed tubing can be just as good as unseamed tubing. In the cycling business seamed tubing usually equals cheap tubing. That being said, any tubing that splits is a bummer!

Joe Bender-Zanoni
Great Notch,NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: NortonMarg@aol.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: [CR]Frejus restoration disappointment



> I've got this old, 1958 to 1960 Frejus Tour de France frame with really...ok
> paint. Way to good to redo just because of the paint, hand striping all over,
> plenty of nicks and scrapes, nothing serious (depending on your definition of
> serious!) but horrible chrome. Not too many worse. So, my solution (I haven't
> ridden it, so I don't even know if I like it or not) was to polish the steel
> where the chrome used to be and have it clear coated.
> The headlugs have polished up nicely, the disappointment I ran into was found
> on polishing the seat stays. I should have said earlier, this is a frame with
> a red Columbus tubing sticker on it. I found what appeared to be a split in
> the left seat stay about 2 inches long. 3/4" or so is filled with brass,
> probably from when the drop out was brazed. So here is this 2" long split. The only
> conclusion I can draw is the frame was built with seamed stays. I know
> Columbus made seamed tubing, at least that is what I presumed when I found seamed
> steerer tubes in my 1950s 1960s Bianchis, but I didn't expect to see it in the
> frame tubes of a frame with a red sticker on it.
> I admit to being a little bit of a snob when it comes to quality of tubing
> (I've built a few frames) and seamed tubing, well...I don't need to say too much
> to this crowd, but I'm disappointed in Frejus.
> I'm going to fix it, I'm going to ride it and objectively see if I like it.
> It may not matter, but it has made a subtle change in my opinion of Frejus, I'm
> sure partly because they were one of my initial inspirations to build frames.
> Then again, I may just get over it.
> Stevan Thomas
> Alameda, CA