Re: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups

(Example: Humor)

Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:02:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups
To: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>, jerrymoos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <000c01c3bf90$b907d540$6400a8c0@jfbender>


Joe,
     It would be a bit strange to mark the left side cup (i.e. the adjustable one) to distinguish between Swiss and French threading. This is because that cup is the same for both types. The difference is in the fixed cup on the right side of the bottom bracket which is left hand threadedfor the Swiss style.
     In my (sad) experience, those cups often have markings that aren't so obvious - e.g. a "band" machined into the face of the cup. If the Sugino cup is marked on the left side cup, it's beyond being un-Sugino. It's patently silly.
     Cheers,
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia


--- Joe Bender-Zanoni wrote:


> There was a marking but I forget it. A simple stamped
> letter on the left cup.. Very un-Sugino to just take
> the letter die and give it a whack to indicate Swiss.
>
> Joe Bender-Zanoni
> Great Notch,NJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>;
> <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:27 PM
> Subject: [CR]Re: Sugino Swiss Cups
>
>
> > Were they marked differently? Some European-made Swiss
> fixed cup are
> marked
> > "G" or "S" denoting the left hand thread.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry Moos
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
> > To: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>;
> <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:40 PM
> > Subject: Sugino Swiss Cups
> >
> >
> > > Yep, Sugino made Swiss threaded cups. I had them on a
> Mondia built "Tour
> > de
> > > Suisse".
> > >
> > > Joe Bender-Zanoni
> > > Great Notch, NJ
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: "chuck taylor" <phatswag@comcast.net>;
> > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>;
> > > "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [CR]help! zeus w/ 35xP1 bb threads
> > >
> > >
> > > > I agree with Sheldon, never heard of a Swiss-threaded
> Zeus, plus I'm
> not
> > > > sure Sugino ever made Swiss BB cups.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Moos
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
> > > > To: "chuck taylor" <phatswag@comcast.net>;
> > > <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 7:17 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CR]help! zeus w/ 35xP1 bb threads
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > charles taylor wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >My zeus has a bad fixed bb cup that I need to remove
> but don't know
> > the
> > > > > >handed-ness of the thread. The sugino bb cups both
> say 35xP1, which
> > > I've
> > > > > >never heard of.
> > > > >
> > > > > 35 x 1 designates both French and Swiss threading,
> the difference
> > > > > being in the "handedness" of the fixed cup.
> > > > >
> > > > > French fixed cups=right (wrong)
> > > > >
> > > > > Swiss fixed cups=left (right)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've never heard of Zeus using Swiss, I'd bet it's
> French,
> > > > > righty-tighty on both sides.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sheldon "Strictly Speaking, Possibly" Brown
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