Re: [CR]'nother eBay outing - can you say 'bivalent'?

(Example: Component Manufacturers)

Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 10:28:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "ken denny" <kendenny66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]'nother eBay outing - can you say 'bivalent'?
To: "Wayne F. Jolly" <wjolly@videowave.us>, Jan Johnson <picabo58@earthlink.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <000c01c2de7e$450caf60$1a926618@oemcomputer>


Hi Wayne, and all. Firstly, I was simply pointing out an observation, but it's obvious that _any_ post I make on this list is going to irk quite a contingent of adversaries. Why, I don't know, but that's their problem, and neither mine nor the lists. My observation regarding these hubs, and I did compliment the seller on their "eye candy" quality was from the perspective of the design intent of interchangable hubs in general. That is, the wheels can be interchanged front and back, and exchanged with other riders in the pro peleton, thereby minimizing the team inventory trucked around in support vehicles during races, allowing a quick swap roadside from one cycle to another, etc. These particular hubs at auction have different drillings (36/32), which was the basis of my observation and inquiry. It was just an observation and nothing personal. Many read this observation and thanked me for pointing it out. I could have said that these hubs sucked, worked like garbage, the splines stripped all thetime, required non-standard dropout spacing, and weren't worth the tattered box they belong in, but I didn't. My personal opinion is that they are the coolest hub ever designed, and BTW, Cinelli wasn't the only firm to produce this concept. I believe it was Hilkary stone or one of his colleagues at C+ who chronicled this a year or so ago (the other mfr's. names escape me). Now, to answer your question, sure, many cycles were set up with variable spoke counts, and as someone else mentioned, 32F/40R was a common setup on many European cycles. In fact, _some_ of Coppi's bikes were set up that way, as was Fiorenzo Magni's '48 GdI winning Wilier Triestina and Gino Bartali's '38 TdF winning Oorange Legnano. http://external.nj.nec.com/homepages/sandiway/bike/como/mdg/ I hope this helps and does not tick anyone off. Ken Denny Boston "Wayne F. Jolly" <wjolly@videowave.us> wrote:Ken

Thank you for bringing this to our (my) attention. I have been looking for a set of Cinelli Bivalent Hubs. And when NOS appears I am always inspired to bid to own

I have a question though, were bicycles ever engineered with fewer spokes on one of the wheels ? If so were the primary factors for the design durability, creative design, weight ratios or some other factor ?

Wayne Jolly Toronto, (It's a good day for cycling when there is no freezing rain) Canada


----- Original Message -----
From: "ken denny"
To: "Jan Johnson"


; Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [CR]'nother eBay outing - can you say 'bivalent'?


>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like one hub is drilled 32, the other 36. Kind of screws up the interchangability concept, no?
> Beautiful objects, nevertheless.
> Ken Denny
> Boston
> Jan Johnson wrote:Attenzione, per favore....
> Some nice little things to add to your collections.
>
> CINELLI Bivalent Hubs - NOS NIB RARE!!
> rd=1>
> Item # 2162223609
> - - -
> SIMPLEX Seat Post with Badge 1960s French
> rd=1>
> Item # 2162009642
> - - -
> CAMPAGNOLO SUPER RECORD Seat Post
> rd=1>
> Item # 2162034142
> - - -
> CINELLI UNICANITOR No. 3 Bicycle Saddle NOS
> rd=1>
> Item # 2162035406
> - - -
> SERGAL 100% Wool Jersey Armwarmers NOS
> &rd=1>
> Item # 2713585998
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> picabo58
>
> Jan Johnson
> Portola Valley, California
>
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