Re: [CR]Re: Ross "signature" on Ebay

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From: <DTSHIFTER@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:07:49 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Ross "signature" on Ebay
To: EdVintage63@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


Ed Granger wrote:

<<On the general topic of "caveat emptor," I don't see any real indication or proof this is a Ross Signature model, but the seller is clearly saying it is (though the word "signature" in the item description is cleverly not in upper case or quotes), and that it is built by one of the four named frame builders associated with the signature program. He can't even do better than a seven-year time span for the year the bike was built. What little I know of Ross bikes suggests that this is probably a Taiwan-built number - and very likely NOT a Kellog or Redcay frame. Maybe I'm wrong, but this seems another case of, at best, ignorance on the part of the seller who nevertheless makes some pretty strong claims for the item; and at worst, a carefully crafted deception. Or am I wrong about the bike? Any Ross experts?
>>

Ed,

I have a Kellogg built Ross (#09 01 076) and I believe Charlie Young has one as well? Joe B-Z has a Redcay Ross, if I recall, so perhaps we can share some information?

The later built Taiwan Signature frames were not all that bad (I had one), but certainly did not have the lug work that my Kellogg has.

I'll take a look at the one on eBay and get back.

Regards,

Chuck Brooks
Malta, NY