Re: [CR]Early 60's Gearing

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 10:43:48 -0500
To: Jan Heine <heine93@earthlink.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
From: "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Early 60's Gearing


I wrote of the Rochet I used to have:


>>That had 48-44-38 chainrings, not a huge range by modern standards,
>>with 14-16-18-20 in back.

(http://sheldonbrown.org/rochet)
>>My 1957 OTB came with one of these on a Rosa 48/30 double, a rather
>>unusual touring setup. This bike also came with an "alpine" type
>>freewheel: 14-16-19-26.

Jan Heine wrote:
>Your Rochet, being a production bike, did not offer the gear range
>you'd find on a top-drawer cyclotouring machine. Most of the
>equipment was an odd adaptation of racing gear, which you wouldn't
>find on a well-spec'd Herse, Singer or Routens. A typical Herse
>triple from the 1950s is 48-40-32.

Yes, but these bikes, I would expect to be equipped with a chainstay-mounted Cyclo helical derailer, the kind that used a screen door spring, not a self-contained, dropout mounted unit.
>I have seen a Singer with 50-42-36, which makes a bit less sense. In
>both cases, with a 14-22 or 15-22 on the rear. But most of these
>bikes used doubles until the 1960s, when triples became popular,
>both in racing and for cyclotouring bikes. I suspect the Singer
>above was influenced by Anquetil's gearing when he climbed the Puy
>de Dome...
>
>The 48/30 is not unusual at all for a French cyclotouring bike. On
>doubles, the big ring usually was 48 or 46, the small one 32 or 30,
>rarely 28. Still a good choice today. (See the article in VBQ vol.
>1. No. 1)

That's the only one I ever saw. The (cottered) Rosa crank had a large diameter (maybe 2") thread at its base, and the big ring threaded onto the crank much as a freewheel threads onto a hub. The 30 chainring bolted to the 48.

I agree that it was a good setup. I found the low pretty adequate, but the 48/14 top gear didn't satisfy me so I soon converted it to 10 speed, later to 30, and at present this bike has a 63-speed rig http://sheldonbrown.org/otb.html

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