Re: [CR]toeclip bolts

(Example: Framebuilders:Masi)

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]toeclip bolts
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20041005152347.2702.qmail@web81001.mail.yahoo.com>


Friends,

Yes, the Christophe screws were really meant for mounting the clips on non-threaded pedal cages. They also included that funky backing plate for use with pedal cages that didn't have special locating holes for the screws. By the way, in that respect, the French pedals may have been preferable since you had more leeway in positioning the clip.

Nevertheless, in the world of my youth (which apparently was a less refined place than your's) the threads in STEEL Campagnolo pedals did get stripped from time to time by overly zealous mechanics (although not by me), no one could afford to carry around a Campagnolo "T" wrench while on tour (or if you brought one to the Kissena Park velodrome it quickly disappeared) and people rode their bicycles in the rain which sometimes causes the bolts to rust (which in turn caused the threads to strip).

Plus, there obviously were shops that replaced the Campagnolo bolts with the admittedly less desireable Christophe peices. perhaps it was "a New York thing".

Anyway, I do admit though to occasionally snapping the head off of TA crankset bolts. Best regards, Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (but I've bicycled in many countries and seen many things that would earn disapproval on this list)
> I think the screws and nuts that came with Christophe clips
> were primarily intended not for stripped Campy pedals, but
> for Lyotard and other French pedals which until the 80's
> typically didn't have threaded mounting holes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
>
> Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I've never seen a Record pedal with a stripped toeclip
> attaching thread.
>
> Greg Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
>
> Geeez, I know I've seen this problem at least once. It comes
> from using the crappy out-of-spec screws that come with the
> clips instead of the nice screws that come with the pedals
> ;-)
>
> Ahem... but seriously, I think it's pretty remarkable how
> rarely the threads in Campy pedal cages fail given how often
> you see failure of front derailleur cable clamps which engage
> just about the same threaded depth. That's not to mention how
> often you see thread failures on other brands of pedals. In
> any case, if you strip a Campy pedal cage, you're probably
> using a bad bolt or way too much torque. One problem that's
> not unheard of with 5 x .8 fastener failure is people
> inadventently using SAE 5-32 fasteners, which look very much
> the same. A correllary is all the early Cannondale frames
> with stripped bottle bosses because Cannondale, before the
> wised up, used 5-32 rivnuts for the bosses. Anyone who used
> any screw normally found in a bike shop, say the ones that
> come with a bottle cage, rather than those that came with teh
> frame, was in for a problem.
>
> Tom Dalton
> Bethlehem, PA
>
>
>
>
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