Re: [CR]Legnano Model Differences

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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 08:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Legnano Model Differences
To: Aldo Ross <aldoross4@siscom.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Speaking of Legnano, I see the same eBay seller who sold the restored 40's Bianchi Folgore for over $2000 about a week ago sold a similarly restored Legnano from the same era this past weekend for over $2000 as well. So I guess Chuck's comment that Bianchi is the one marque that can commend this type of price for a restored example should be modified to say Bianchi and Legnano are the two marques that can commend such a price. Or maybe I should be a bit cautious and says that these are among the few marques that commend such a price, in case the seller has an Umberto Dei or Gloria yet to come. Anyone know if there is any connection to Vinatge Velos? This is just Vintage Velos' type of bike.

Regards,

Jerry Moos

Aldo Ross <aldoross4@siscom.net> wrote: In general, the 1960s model Roma and Gran Premio both had Campy rear dropouts.

The Roma has Campy fork ends, while the GP may have Campy, or may have unmarked fork ends.

Roma has a split in the front of the seat cluster, and the binder bolt (usually) pinches this together to hold the seatpost in place. The GP generally lacks this split, and uses a different style bolt which pinches against the post itself.

Roma have real lugs at the headtube. Some GPs have a pressed headtube assembly - easy to tell from the impressions on the inside of the headtube.

The Roma has seamless tubing. Some GP have welded seam tubing.

Hope this helps.

Aldo Ross
Blue Ball, Ohio


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Subject: Re: [CR]Legnano Model Differences



> I think that the presence of Campagnolo dropouts indicates it to be a Tipo Roma Olympiade. Others more knowledgeable on Legnanos will likely chime in on this one, though.
> Greg "had a blue one" Parker
> Dexter, Michigan
>
> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:46:16 -0700
> From: "Carmella St. Martin"
> To:
> Subject: [CR]Legnano Model Differences
>
> Hello Listmembers,
>
> How can I tell the difference between Legnano models Roma Olympiade =
> [Tipo Roma?] and Gran Premio. I just recently acquired a frame which I =
> believe to be a '61. Serial # is EX6728. There are no discerning =
> markings on the frame which would indicate the model. It does have the =
> Campagnolo adjustable dropouts. Thanks for any information.
>
> Marc St. Martin
> Livermore, CA