Okay, so I went down to the dungeon to check my hord of old parts and - Lord have mercy - both the road and track pedals had those little bolts in the box. Now I still maintain that, at least in my circle of friends, even the otherwise all-Campagnolo bikes used the funky screws that came with the Christophe clips. (Let's not discuss Campagnolo toe clips - maybe some of you used them but I only saw them in catalogues.)
But I think that the answer was supplied to me in an off-list message from Steve Maasland. He mentioned that in his shop they often removed the Campagnolo bolts and replaced them with the Christophe screws since those could be installed with a simple screwdriver, whereas the bolts required the Campagnolo T-Wrench (which people didn't always keep lying around in those antediluvian days).
Now, after checking my parts box I have the following question
about the Christophe screws. Were they the ones with the
integral washer or were they the ones that resembled slightly
oversized Erector Set screws?
Cheers,
Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
> > ...found a kit on E-bay:
> >
> > Item #7104792990
> >
> > After placing a max bid, which I, myself thought
> > was way over the top, I was out-bid. Someone paid
> > (hope I am not offending the potential buyer who
> > may be on the list) a whopping $27 plus dollars for
> these
> > bolts...
>
> Chris,
> In my experience, the most authentic restoration would use
> the cheap screws that came with the clips - or anything
> similar
> from the hardware store or the some bottom drawer of an old
> bike shop. I just don't remember anyone using the "official"
> Campagnolo bolts during the 1960s or early '70s. (Unless,
> perhaps you used actual, official Campagnolo toe clips - but
> I
> don't know anyone who used those either.) Most toe clips
> came
> with these strange looking unplated screws.
> Anyway, I don't even remember when those Campagnolo bolts
> first became available. All the ones I've seen were packaged
> in those plastic bags with "Campagnolo" printed in a more
> modern looking script. That's not how Campagnolo parts were
> package in more ancient times. I remember all the little
> bits
> being packaged in a kind of wax paper bag.
> Anyway, if you read the auction listing closely, you'll
> see
> that it says something about the tremendous value of the bag.
>
> maybe I should be trying to sell some of the wax paper bags I
> still have.
> Cheers,
> Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia
> Fred:
> The #676 bolts and the #677 washers always came with the
> Record / GS pedals when new, beginning in the '50s.
> Initially, they were installed at the factory, then later
> they came loose in a waxed paper bag (as a labor cost
> reduction), then later still in a plastic bag. Every NOS
> Campagnolo pedal set should have those eight items present to
> be considered complete.
> For the SL and SR pedals, there is a slightly different bolt,
> #89, which is also the front derailleur cable fixing bolt.
> All of these parts are somewhat difficult to find in NOS
> condition now. I would value a set of used pedals lower if
> these parts were missing, as it can cost quite a bit to
> replace them. I never sell a set of Campagnolo pedals (new or
> used) without them. They're kind of important I think. I've
> never used anything else, personally.
> Regards,
> Greg "pedaler" Parker
> Ann Arbor, Michigan
>
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