Re: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay

(Example: Production Builders:Peugeot)

From: "Retrofan531" <Retrofan531@allegiance.tv>
To: "Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
References: <200410161706.KAA26921@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Re: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:26:29 -0500


My experience with eBay, both as a buyer and seller, is that when problems occur there is little or no help to be had.

Frank Phillips
McAlester, OK


----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Gillies
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay



> ... but ebay doesn't give a darn ... as usual ...
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> ====== ebay response =====
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to contact us with this information. I
> understand how this situation could be of some concern.
>
> I have reviewed the information that you provided regarding image and
> text theft, but at this point find that I do not have enough evidence to
> show that the member has violated any eBay rules.
>
> Unfortunately, we will only be able to take action if the owner of the
> image or text writes to us. In some instances, certain members will
> allow others to use their images. It is also possible that they acquired
> the image from a mutual source. Therefore, we often cannot remove
> listings based on the representations of third parties whose credentials
> we cannot verify.
>
> We do understand the potential for further issues in this type of
> situation. That is why, if you feel strongly about this issue, we
> recommend you contact the seller(s) to advise them of the information
> and recommend they contact us directly. Once we hear from them, we will
> take appropriate action.
>
> We appreciate you taking the time to contact us with your concerns.
> Thank you for your participation in the eBay community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Landan
> eBay Community Watch
> ______________________________
>
> ... snip ...
>
> Original Message Follows:
> -------------------------
>
> Form Message %43332% 051200
> Subject: 2276534371 VE%X00135 [Reporting Image/Text Theft #2276534371
> ?01]
>
> Item number(s) reported: 2276534371 [$US US]
>
>
> Picture or text taken from item: 2276534371 [$US US]
>
>
> What was copied: The photos in this listing remind me very strongly of a
> listing that i saw on ebay 12 months ago. moreover, the seller has only
> 3 feedbacks, and demands a money order. i have a very strong suspicion
> that this listing is a fraud.