Re: [CR]Chesini city bike outing on ebay

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From: <Bikerdaver@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:05:55 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]Chesini city bike outing on ebay
To: themaaslands@comcast.net, OROBOYZ@aol.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


In a message dated 10/15/2004 9:05:25 PM PST, themaaslands@comcast.net writes: OFFLIST Dave, If you had spent the least bit of time reading my post, you might realize that I did not say anything negative about the Chesini. I simply pointed out that your post attempted to make a very dubious claim of similarity between two highly different bikes that come from completely different eras. The seller of the Chesini has not shown any apparent belief that he has a 'special' bike, nor would he have any reason to feel even minimally slighted. The seller of the Ganna did however know that he had something special and had priced it accordingly. As I have gently suggested to you previously, I believe you could do well to use a bit more reflection before posting to the list and make more judicious use of offlist responses instead of open responses like the one below.
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Steven Maasland
Moorestown, NJ


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> In a message dated 10/15/2004 12:15:47 PM PST, themaaslands@comcast.net
> writes:
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> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
> To me, this bike has absolutely nothing in common with the Ganna city bike
> discussed recently. This bike is at least 20 years newer than the Ganna and
> shows absolutely no innovative or unusual technical or constructive details.
> This Chesini is an everyday Italian city bike from the 70's or 80's with absolutely
> nothing noteworthy. Similar bikes are available anywhere in Italy even today.
> More than likely it was not even built by Chesini, but rather by one of the
> many makers of private label city bikes. The Ganna on the other hand showed a
> level of workmanship that was worthy of a boutique builder, with lovely lugwork
> and double plate fork crown. It also offered a highly complicated technical
> solution to the challenge of offering 'invisible' brake routing.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Wow Steven, it looks like you have a pretty definite opinion about this bike.
> I am just glad the seller isn't a member of the CR list!
> cheers-
> Dave Anderson
> Cut Bank MT --------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven- I am sure you believe in your heart of hearts that you are doing the "right" thing, and I am sure that is just fine. Dubious, Schmubious, in the big picture I think I am just going to have to disagree with you on the way you have handled this quite inocuous Chesini outing. I will only repeat that for his own sake, I am just glad the seller isn't a member of the CR list. As for myself, I save my Offlist responses for positive reinforcement and mutual sharing of upbeat themes. Again, in the big picture, I am going to have to respectfully disagree with your approach. I hope you will appreciate my
position. Thank you.
Dave Anderson
Cut Bank MT