RE: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay


Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina

From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
To: "'Donald Gillies'" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: RE: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:17:58 -0400
Organization: Bilenkey Industrial Design
In-Reply-To: <200410161706.KAA26921@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>


Well I got a very nice response when I asked for a shot of the underside of the BB shell. And then shortly there after I got 4 pics that were taken Nov 20th 2002 of various views not shown on the auction, and one shot of the underside of the BB shell (pretty plain) that was taken Oct 16th 2004. All the shots are reported as being taken by the same camera. Seems like a pretty genuine auction of a real bike by a real person to me.

My size, but out of my price range at the moment.

David Bilenkey Ottawa, Ontario, Canada


> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of
> Donald Gillies
> Sent: October 16, 2004 1:06 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Possible Fraud Schwinn Paramount on Ebay
>
>
> ... but ebay doesn't give a darn ... as usual ...
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2276534371
>
> ====== ebay response =====
>
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to contact us with this information. I
> understand how this situation could be of some concern.
>
> I have reviewed the information that you provided regarding image and
> text theft, but at this point find that I do not have enough
> evidence to show that the member has violated any eBay rules.
>
> Unfortunately, we will only be able to take action if the
> owner of the
> image or text writes to us. In some instances, certain members will
> allow others to use their images. It is also possible that
> they acquired the image from a mutual source. Therefore, we
> often cannot remove
> listings based on the representations of third parties whose
> credentials we cannot verify.
>
> We do understand the potential for further issues in this type of
> situation. That is why, if you feel strongly about this issue, we
> recommend you contact the seller(s) to advise them of the information
> and recommend they contact us directly. Once we hear from
> them, we will take appropriate action.
>
> We appreciate you taking the time to contact us with your concerns.
> Thank you for your participation in the eBay community.
>
> Regards,
>
> Landan
> eBay Community Watch