Re: [CR]Is this the AVA death stem??

(Example: Framebuilders:Tubing:Columbus)

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Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 23:47:17 -0500
To: "David Goerndt" <davidg@iag.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Is this the AVA death stem??


Quoth David Goerndt :
>: [CR]Is this the AVA death stem??

Yep.
> > I found this listing amusing, and then scary. Check out the bottom left
>picture of the stem. Anything look wrong to you? Is it just photography?)
>I don't think this is the famous AVA death stem, I think this is one of the
>lower end AVA stems. Also, nice leather saddle, I think this is exactly
>what Sheldon Brown warns about the low cost leather saddles ruining the
>reputation of the good ones.
>
>
>The model numbers he lists don't make any sense , MX -8, MX-10? It looks
>like an early to mid 70's low end UO something..

It is a classic UO-8. The wishful thinking description:

"Reynolds 531? double butted? cromoly? steel frame & fork" is false, it's seamed gaspipe.

The statement that it has "alloy bars" is also false, they're steel.

See: http://sheldonbrown.com/carapace.html#uo8

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