Re: [CR]Frame integrity

(Example: Production Builders:Tonard)

Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 23:46:25 -0400
From: "Joe Bender-Zanoni" <joebz@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Frame integrity
To: richardsachs@juno.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <20040721.201028.12675.38059@webmail13.nyc.untd.com>


Richie,

Ya gotta pay attention to my words. I said "Functionally" as the all important qualifier.

I then went on to talk about sighting down the seat stay to assess the, at least aesthetic, damage. And minimizing any yanking to boot should yanking be done.

Now for the real conundrums- do you return 126mm to its proper 120? Do you pay to have added braze-ons removed- especially when you have a nice repaint on the bike? Those are the questions that drive me crazy.

Joe Bender-Zanoni Sitting firmly on the fence in Great Notch NJ


----- Original Message -----
From: richardsachs@juno.com
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CR]Frame integrity



>
> snipped:
> -- Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net> wrote:
> "Functionally, I think spreading old frames with tubing like
> 531 is not much of a problem."
>
>
> i'm not down on this or any similar posts on this issue aujourd hui.
> trying to create situations that validate yanking around rear triangles
> on a list like this seem counterproductive.
> how different is coldsetting a classic frame for a 10 speed
> cassette than adding braze-ons for a front der or cutting
> off lever bosses on a cinelli and adding h.t. ports for sti levers.
> this is the freaking cr list. i thought many folks wanted to "protect"
> those old war horses from the likes of modern intruders/intrusions?
> if having 10 cogs is so important, why not get a modern frame.
> quite often "patina" and "provenance" are thread subjects in and
> of themselves. if cr listees start okay-ing rearranging frames for
> use with 2004 spec-ed parts, what is the point?
> e-RICHIE
> chester, ct
> collects old - rides new