Here is the chrome Paramount with the GP4s in question:
The seller described the Unicanitor saddle as "in great shape!!" (with exclamation marks, no less). In fact the saddle has all the lettering worn off and several tears in the leather, including one large one. Also, all componets except the Ti pivot bolts, SR HS and the stem were claimed to be original. In fact, the Cinelli bars are new logo, not even intermediate logo. Neither of these items was clearly shown in the photos. I emailed the seller pointing this out and also pointing out that the cranks are coded 1975, not 1973, although the RD is marked 1973. I sought a $75 price adjustment to cover my cost for replacing the trashed saddle and the incorrect bars. He replied that the saddle is in great shape for its age, even if worn and torn. He said I could return the bike for a full refund, but refused any partial refund. Complaints to eBay and PayPal have not changed his position. The only reason he is willing to give a full refund is that he has been offered over $1200 after the auction ended.
Now it appears the GP4s are not original, as I rather suspected. In addition, the brake calipers and hubs seem almost too good compared the the RD, brake levers and cranks, which have noticeable wear. It almost looks as if the calipers and hubs were recently replaced with NOS ones. Even the frame seems almost too good, compared to some of the components. It could be this frame was rechromed and redecaled by someone very good, perhaps Waterford.
So it is possible what I have here is an expertly restored chrome Paramount with some original parts, some NOS period correct replacements, and a few too-new replacements. Anyone have an opinion as to whether this bike is original (except the parts noted) or restored? Also, any opinions as to whether, if restored, it is still worth the $1075 price, or perhaps I should take the seller up on his offer of a full refund?
Regards,
Jerry Moos Houston, TX
OROBOYZ@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 9/19/2004 9:10:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net writes:
<< Speaking of the Mavic time, I have a 1973 all chrome Paramount with what are claimed to be original wheels with GP4 tubular rims. Was the GP4 available in 1973? When was it introduced? >>
I don't think so.. The model GP4 was a "consumer" rim after the success of the mod. SSC , which came out in 1975. My guess would have been 77 or 78 for the GP$ at the earliest... Plus Schwinn complete bikes never came with Mavic sewup rims to my knowledge. It was always either Schwinn Approved Super Champions or Weinmann wood filled.
Dale Brown
Greensboro, NC